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Debriefing => Off-Topic Lounge => Topic started by: Sp1nn3y on October 12, 2010, 09:55:21 pm
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So.. last month when i was "borrowing" internet from a neighbor i could play TF2/CS/GE:S fine, maybe a little 2 sec stop lag here and there but other than that I'm pretty gravy.. and now that i've decided to buy internet and have it all to myself..
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/988030349.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I get 20-25Mb/s... Not bad for 25$ a month.. i don't torrent or anything so my upload is whatever.. When i am sitting on my desktop looking at servers to join i get a nice 20-50 ping[depends on server].. when ANY game finally opens.. and i get in there I'm pinging 150-250 easy. and it's so laggy i can't even play. I've talked to service people and it they've reset my shit already and still i get this crap. it's also 24 hours after the grace period she mentioned.
Any suggestions as to what i should be doing.. Or what I'm doing wrong.... I got better game time in borrowing internet from 2 miles away then paying for my own.. I'm straight into the modem.. no router here..
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First of all, PING has nothing to do with bandwidth (except for satellite internet due to the bullshit involved). It is just a measure of how long it takes for a packet to make a round trip.
With that said, you may be experiencing lag due to your COMPUTER not your connection. When you tax your computer, it is affecting your frame rate, which affects how often you respond to the server. I don't think this is the cause since it worked well with your stolen connection.
Second idea: Your windows firewall might be acting funny on you. I suggest you try disabling it for one game session to see if it changes anything.
Third idea: Uninstall any of that Comcast software they may have installed on your computer. Shit is whack and I was actually REALLY pissed off that the twit who installed my cable internet put that shit on my computer. It is bloatware.
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Hmm wtf is this shit.. i wasn't fully watching this guy but i think he enabled my firewall because i heard the monitor click.. ?? What the deuce is this?
EDIT: ok so i don't need this desktop doctor and comcast desktop software? fucking good. removing now.
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ok so now after doing as told and editing my reg the firewall is completely off and i cannot turn it on for anything. and i'm still getting game lag.
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Go back to your stolen internet for a bit and see if you still lag. That will rule out your computer.
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Go back to your stolen internet for a bit and see if you still lag. That will rule out your computer.
Thing is that it's down.. there is no more internet i can use. which is why i ponied up for my own service lol...
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You got caught? Or you're too lazy to crack the WEP and get back online?
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You got caught? Or you're too lazy to crack the WEP and get back online?
No, They just had an un-passworded network up. and after 4 months of using it.. they don't have an internet connection anymore and after 3 more days they took down the network so i'm guessing they moved or something idk.
Still no fix on my shit.. i'm pretty irate right now. i can't play any games.
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comcast does throttling if anyone didnt know. Im not sure if they do it alll the time while your gaming, or just for bittorrent.
go to your command prompt and type this
ipconfig /flushdns ( theres a space between g and / )
Do you or did they give a router as well? Let me/us know.
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ipconfig /flushdns - "Requires elevation" ?
Nope, No router.
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You sure they really unplugged? I find that hard to believe with how well-trained people are today to consume media services. They probably put on a password, checked "hidden" on the network name broadcast, and told you they're amish now so you wouldn't hack back in within an hour.
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Yeah...
Topic? Baaack on it...
Bah, I'm just so confused.. my TAB menu in all games say from 20-50 ping but net_graph shows 150+... in TF2 and GE:S I'm pulling in a Siccckk 9fps... i never pull 9fps unless I'm in runway.. It wont go passed 9 either.. but in CS 1.6 i hit 70-80 fine.
What would be holding back my fps, due to internet?
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Sorry dude, but it if you're just around 70-80 fps in CS 1.6 it means your computer can't handle more.
It's not like the internet has any impact on your fps - in fact, even if you'd be on a 56k dialup you'd have decent framerates all the time, if your computer could handle it, it'd just be laggy as hell.
Try to lower any significant settings and maybe your Direct X level, too. In the TF2 forums there should be a thread about getting it to run better on older systems - this should help you with all your orange box games (and GE: S) as well.
Other than that: did you defrag your HDD and your Steam games as well, recently? If the files are scattered around too much this could also be a part of your problem. Try to update your graphics drivers, while you're on it.
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try this
http://www.pingtest.net/
if you were getting nice pings from the other wireless connection, i believe comcast is fucking you somehow.
Do you have Cox in ure area? they have like a plan for $30/month
Heck, just buy like 5 100 feet of cat 6 cables, bridge them together, go to someones house when its halloween, and sneak inside and find a router with cable connection and root the wire inground back to your house. You will get full speed heee hee hee
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(http://www.pingtest.net/result/25995968.png) (http://www.pingtest.net)
Damn it, Does this mean my gfx card is dying or something...? Because i was definitely getting decent fps in tf2 about 2 weeks ago.. I have an older "xtacy 9600" that i could put in.. I am disappoint.
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Damn it, Does this mean my gfx card is dying or something...? Because i was definitely getting decent fps in tf2 about 2 weeks ago.. I have an older "xtacy 9600" that i could put in.. I am disappoint.
My 9600 couldn't run WoW more than 15 FPS outside of cities at lowest settings 2 years ago, So don't count on that.
What is your current graphic card?
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Ping has due to with internet and FPS has to due with your computing performance I think.
If this is windows XP, I would disable QOS in the services.msc (start... run.. type services.msc)
Do me a favor and run Hijackthis send me the log.
http://download.cnet.com/Trend-Micro-HijackThis/3000-8022_4-10227353.html
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Its most definitely hardware related, as in your computer hardware. You should never pull 9fps ingame.
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As said before it could also be because of file fragmentation if you're sure it worked 2 weeks before. Steam is downloading stuff (and very much TF 2 updates) all the time so this means you could have that problem.
Try running your windows defragmentation app and those in Steam that relate to your Orange Box games (as for example TF2 and the HL 2 games, because the archive files of those games may also be fragmented in themselves) by right-clicking on the game, selecting properties, going to the 'local files' tab and selecting defragment cache files (if any fragmentation is shown above).
As osaeed2k9 said, he might find something in your Hijackthis log if you ran into some nasty software lately.
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post the hijackthis log and also run memtest 86 and do a single pass.. like just run it for 5 mins or 10mins and see if it found any errors in your memory.
I want to make sure your ram, videocard, are functioning properly as KM said it could be a hardware issue.
Memory test- http://www.memtest86.com/
Video card memory test- http://www.technibble.com/repair-tool-of-the-week-video-memory-stress-test/
The video card memory test detected my 7600gt ram modules and i then had to replace my video card. Very useful tool.
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post the hijackthis log and also run memtest 86 and do a single pass.. like just run it for 5 mins or 10mins and see if it found any errors in your memory.
I recommend passing the full test though, But that's up to you. Takes around 45 minutes, 60 max.
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post the hijackthis log and also run memtest 86 and do a single pass.. like just run it for 5 mins or 10mins and see if it found any errors in your memory.
I want to make sure your ram, videocard, are functioning properly as KM said it could be a hardware issue.
Ok so all of those memtest downloads are linux. even the .iso for windows..
i will run the video test tonight, i ran that for 5 minutes and got no problems.
I'm running Vista btw.
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Now I'm running a router but there is no change whatsoever. 80% of the time their not connected anyways. Started this morning.
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Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 9:26:04 PM, on 10/13/2010
Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6001.18498)
Boot mode: Normal
Running processes:
C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe
C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe
C:\Windows\SOUNDMAN.EXE
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Belkin\Router Setup and Monitor\BelkinRouterMonitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Rainmeter\Rainmeter.exe
C:\Program Files\Belkin\Router Setup and Monitor\BelkinSetup.exe
C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe
C:\Program Files\Winamp\winamp.exe
C:\Windows\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe
C:\Program Files\TortoiseSVN\bin\TSVNCache.exe
C:\Program Files\Trillian\trillian.exe
C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe
C:\Program Files\Ventrilo\Ventrilo.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Windows\system32\SearchFilterHost.exe
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
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R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyOverride = *.local
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHelperStub - {18DF081C-E8AD-4283-A596-FA578C2EBDC3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelperShim.dll
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O3 - Toolbar: DAEMON Tools Toolbar - {32099AAC-C132-4136-9E9A-4E364A424E17} - C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Toolbar\DTToolbar.dll (file missing)
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Windows Defender] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe -hide
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] SOUNDMAN.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DivXUpdate] "C:\Program Files\DivX\DivX Update\DivXUpdate.exe" /CHECKNOW
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTTask.exe" -atboottime
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Ok so all of those memtest downloads are linux. even the .iso for windows..
For the memtest, Try this.
http://www.hirensbootcd.net/download.html?ver=11.1
Burn it to a CD and set boot priorities to your CD player in BIOS, It should work.
Use this in last resort if you can't find no windows mirrors at all.
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For the memtest, Try this.
http://www.hirensbootcd.net/download.html?ver=11.1
Burn it to a CD and set boot priorities to your CD player in BIOS, It should work.
Use this in last resort if you can't find no windows mirrors at all.
Hey Sp1nn3y, you can try this as well:
http://www.4shared.com/file/DOyweye7/memtest86-410usbinstaller.html
You can install this right on your thumb drive and set the boot priority in BIOS. You should run it for at least an hour.
Furmark v.1.8.2 is also a great program for benchmarking / stability testing your GPU.
Hope that helps.
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Looks good, Faster than my boot cd :P but still useful if you need it someday, But its not necessary right now.
I'll try this out JJ.
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Scanning your Hijack log, it looks clean except two things..
One is, Protexis licensing service is running as a process, which can make your comp run shit.
Here read this article
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/07/19/how-to-disable-and-uninstall-protexis-licensing-service-psiservice-exe/
Take a look at the 2nd and 3rd paragraph.
Becareful with registry shit... make a backup first.
Also, I see you have Itunes installed, and that stupid ass Bonjour gets installed. I just uninstall Bonjour since it takes a bit of resources or you can just disable it on startup.
THIS SearchFilterHost.exe.... go in taskmanager and check and see if that process is taking up a shit load of resources
Actually you should take a look at the taskmanager and see what is hogging your system. After booting, leave the pc a bit and wait until everything has booted up. Load up the taskmanager and monitor the cpu and memory levels. If the cpu stays 20% or higher all the time, something like malware is present.
also, I would try is, DISABLE EVERYTHING IN STARTUP. Sorry for the caps lol. Just making it appear more visible.
I want to see after you disable everything in startup entries, if shit runs faster or same shit.
Let us know man.
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So, I just got some help from a buddy who's gonna chip in and front me the cash for a new gfx card till i can repay after this new job starts paying up.. now, I'm on a budget.. looking for a PCI/AGP gfx card.. i have slots for both.. Looking for recommendations..
Thank you guys tons for the help.. i have needed to upgrade my gfx card for a good 2 years anyways.. and now's just time. Once again thank you for your interest!! Now interest in some info for my slightly hardware noob self.
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=48&name=Desktop-Graphics-Video-Cards&Pagesize=100&Order=PRICE
Damn i love newegg.
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AGP cards are getting expensive.
I've been checking on newegg and a decent one would cost you around 50-60$.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102814&cm_re=AGP-_-14-102-814-_-Product (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102814&cm_re=AGP-_-14-102-814-_-Product)
This should do it if you have the budget. Used to run a 2600HD on my old PC and it was doing a great job on Source games.
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If you have both slots you should definitively go for PCI Express, since it's faster, cheaper and more cards are available.
Knowing the rest of your system would also help, since it doesn't make sense to have a top-notch gaphics card if your CPU is slowing it anyway, so that information is needed to find a good balance between price and estimated performance. Your OS was Windows 7, right?
(-> XP doesn't support higher Direct X than 9, so if it was XP you wouldn't have to bother looking for a card that does 10 or 11)
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His PC has Vista installed if my memory is correct.
Vista supports 10, But I am unsure if it supports 11.
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Not like it matters. Saying a budget card supports DX 10/11 is like saying GE:S has Bot support... sure the code is there... but it doesn't really work.
And when he said PCI/AGP, looking like thats straight PCI not PCI-X.
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Not like it matters. Saying a budget card supports DX 10/11 is like saying GE:S has Bot support... sure the code is there... but it doesn't really work.
And when he said PCI/AGP, looking like thats straight PCI not PCI-X.
Yeah, I feel what you're saying major.. If i could get shader v3, d-whatever to just keep up with HL2 I'd be exceedingly happy.
http://catalog.ebay.com/ASUSTeK-COMPUTER-P4P800-E-Deluxe-Celeron-ATX-Intel-865PE-90-M8LCW0-G0UAYZ-90M8LCW0G0UAY-/74107818/r.html
My Board, Yeah it's straight PCI.
I am led to believe that Vista can run Dx11 on SP2..?
Not like I'll be running x84 or w/e though..
CPUID! I have 4gigs in the board but something is only giving me 2..
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Saying a budget card supports DX 10/11 is like saying GE:S has Bot support...
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bot_mimic 1
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at least a little fun.
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bot_mimic 1
bot_mimic_yaw_offset 180
at least a little fun.
So that's why the bots were following me in your server last night :D
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http://catalog.ebay.com/ASUSTeK-COMPUTER-P4P800-E-Deluxe-Celeron-ATX-Intel-865PE-90-M8LCW0-G0UAYZ-90M8LCW0G0UAY-/74107818/r.html
My Board, Yeah it's straight PCI.
CPUID! I have 4gigs in the board but something is only giving me 2..
I had the same board you had, Except I had the VM version. It finished in a scrapyard.
Anyway, For the RAM, Have you done a Memtest? Some of your memory might be defective, That's why it only detects 2GB. Although it might be something else.
Make sure they are all tucked in correctly, And go see how much RAM you have in the BIOS.
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Well your pic shows your have one 512mb stick. So to have 4gb you would have a very odd memory lineup. None of your ram would be in Dual channel. You could have 4 512mb sticks(that would make sense, and equal 2GB)
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When i got my board sent to me from a buddy it had these sticks come with it. 4, 1gb sticks. That is kind've weird i never noticed how that worked out.. i just re-placed them and did a Memory Diag.. No problems..
i have four in total.
Two(2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220037
Patriot Signature Series 1GB (2x512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System
Two(2)
OCSystem.com 1gb PC3200 DDR400(512) OC System.com
Lol sorry folks, I'm pretty illiterate when it comes to hardware..
None of your ram would be in Dual channel. You could have 4 512mb sticks(that would make sense, and equal 2GB)
So, I'm a little besmirched to the graphic card buying lol, most of the ones in my price go up to DX10 and it doesn't list any shader information?
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Go on Wikipedia and search for the graphic card model, They usually tell the Shader version.