GoldenEye: Source Forums
Debriefing => Impressions & Feedback => Topic started by: Daisy-Fan on March 17, 2009, 11:51:35 pm
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I just want to ask Golden team.
I really want to know if Goldeneye Source was competitive,
because now it's not the really competitive, for me. : S
The problem that is that the gameplay are pretty easy, Am serious!
an aim user can easily kill you also Campers too!
Repawn kill was easy, heh peace of cake, = Free kill.
I know the team has made a lot of work for this legendary FPS ever. And am not
I n'offence not your job. I like to mod, but a little competition in the game will be his property.
Peace guys.
Daisy-Fan
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/stabs self with letter opener
What did you say frenchie!??!
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/stabs self with letter opener
What did you say frenchie!??!
>:(
sorry body but is not really funny. Am Quebecer not frenchie!! Damn.
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Never mind our court jester.
GES isn't yet designed for organized competition. We had some expectation that involved clans (WNx) would give a shit, try to play it in a competitive environment, and help us make GES a competition-quality game. But no clans did, so GES remains what Goldeneye originally was, a run-around-and-frag-your-friends game.
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I don't know what defines a competitive game, but I find that if you're playing in a server with a low amount of people there is plenty of skill involved. I've mowed down countless people many times in a row because I can aim and they can't.
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Thank body. ;) am ready to search.
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sorry body but is not really funny. Am Quebecer not frenchie!! Damn.
I am from Quebec too, but I think people dosen't have to search for hours to understand what the hell I'm saying. You just need to practice, that's all. ;-)
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Never mind our court jester.
RAGE QUIT... oh wait you weren't there to get that VC.. what a choobie..
nah but seriously I'd so be down to organize GE:S Crime with Clan vs Clan.. I'd love to see that.. or even like.. server regs from THIS server to go vs THIS server.. :D It'd be fun to see
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TOTALLY agree. we need some clan wars
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We had some expectation that involved clans (WNx) would give a shit, try to play it in a competitive environment, and help us make GES a competition-quality game.
We do, we do. But with no one else willing to play competitive, we can't do shit. Some aren't ready, others want to chose which member they face, LTK is dead, and most just enjoy pub and nothing more. So we're doing our own shit between us. Sad.
A GE tourney would worth a try if there's enough interest (reply hint)...
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I find GE:S to take a lot more skill - TO WIN - then most other games. I can be leader on TF2 board without much effort (be engie with a well placed sentry or a n00bed up HW guy). Our game is a different breed of skill, you have to use the weapon set, map, and aimer together with skill and a little twitchiness if you even want to think about placing on the round report with anyone of equal or greater skill then you.
Even then, even a n00b can place highly if they are on a good streak with the GG
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Thought they won't make top-spot if a skilled player is around because he'll keep up in the frag race using lead until your luck runs out of bars, unless you manage to milk one inning through the whole round.
And really, is there anyone skilled enough to pull that off?
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the only way it might be conceivably plausible depends on the difference in skill between the n00b and the skilled player.
case and point: myself vs. VC in Temple classic = NFC
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Hey, I died twice. Dropped my ratio from infinity to 51 with that. : (
And then on that 25-0 Cradle round, no one used the AuG enough to get it to show as favorite weapon. Silly RC-P90 deathbeam...
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Silly RC-P90 deathbeam...
QFT, wonder who coded weapon stuff...
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QFT, wonder who coded weapon stuff...
QFT xD
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That's one of the reasons I love playing GES so much. It's not competitive. So I lose a round 0-17, no-one cares. I win 29-7 in DM, and still, no-one cares. To me it's what separates this mod from games like CSS and HL2DM. You can go anywhere and it's always relaxing and fun, with a fantastic gameplay and cool people (Unlike say, CSS where you join a server with a 10-year old screaming "NOOB" over the mic and people trying to hack everyone else's account).
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We do, we do. But with no one else willing to play competitive
This is not true.
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This is not true.
Then tell us who wants to play.
I agree with you SSL; GE was all about playing with your friends and chilling, without much hassle, I kill you, you kill me, we're even, no one's angry because they got their asses whooped. Next round you'll whoop someone's ass, don't worry. But it can be played competitively, but it needs to be doen on a four or six man server.
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TOTALLY agree. we need some clan wars
Yop yop. i want! ;3
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Then tell us who wants to play.
We've set up or atleast attempted to set up 2 matches before. But the other side backed out.
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We've set up or atleast attempted to set up 2 matches before. But the other side backed out.
WN certainly wasn't the other side. BTW, what's your clan?
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Nations War. Though I really don't think we can compete with WNx at this time. We have too few members who regularly play the game. WNx has a lot of people who regularly play and they're all very good.
But yeah, I really hope this mod stays the way it is. It's all about just having a good time and reliving/expanding on our favorite FPS.
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Hmmmm, I am sure we (devs) would be willing to go against a clan... of course we can also promote a tournament. Organizing things is a pain in the ass though
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Ill do a little action(even though I hate "scrimming" with a passion), I'll have to play on [OWS] as I wanna kick KM's ass as much as possible ;)
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Section tournament on the forum?
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WN certainly wasn't the other side. BTW, what's your clan?
Actually they were. We were very close to doing it but some complications arose on WN's side.
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To be competative you need
Auto demorecord function
Auto screenshot at end of round and match
Force certain player models so can be distinguised easier.
MAtch config to be exec by a vote
when match is on people can join server and spectate only also their chat is nto seen by the match players.
somesort of countdown so players know when match begins like in quake live for example.
sv_pure somehow, doubt its possible?
These sugestions are all in hl2dmpro so i didnt thin of them, it makes a match easy to start, you do not even need a password on the server.
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These sugestions are all in hl2dmpro
lol, this is GES, not HL2 or CSS...
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I tired to contribute to competiton by starting my own GE:S clan called "Xenium Crossfire" (X|C - You've probably seen me or my buddy In game)
So far It has 2 members... including me... I made it because there seemed to be no one to rival WNx and that seemed boring. If anyone wants to join they can let me know. It's not going to be easy to go up against WNx but it's worth a shot. =P
That's one of the reasons I love playing GES so much. It's not competitive. So I lose a round 0-17, no-one cares. I win 29-7 in DM, and still, no-one cares.
I dunno, I play a lot of exceptional rounds and people constantly try to get me kicked because they think I'm hacking. Not to mention everyone whines when I have a ridiculously high K/D ratio. No one seems to do this when I'm in a round being pwnd by VC or WNx though. ::)
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I would imagine we could get a clan together quite easily... but it would probably comprise of me and spinney ragequitting left right and centre and mine jumping off the cradle..... but hey thats fun right? :P
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I tired to contribute to competiton by starting my own GE:S clan called "Xenium Crossfire" (X|C - You've probably seen me or my buddy In game)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hermajestyssecretservice (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hermajestyssecretservice)
Couldn't help myself, JcFerggy and I made one too a bit back.
We made it mostly "for fun," but obviously if we get enough members we could become a competitive group.
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Thanks for clearing that up I always get thsoe games mixed up.
lol, this is GES, not HL2 or CSS...
Every league I ever been in requires demos and screenshots sometimes even steam id and if the programers created a "match mode" all that stuff would be taken care of making the players not forget those things.
But its only worth while if the players wanty to compete and at the moment it doesnt seem worth it.
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What happened to the Cheddar Bunnys SSL?
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It died because everyone stopped playing with the exception of myself (but apalrd still runs 5 or so GES Servers). Eh. Hopefully HMSS will be more successful.
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What happened to the Cheddar Bunnys SSL?
Damn Yea! Cheddar members play GES again?
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OWS Biatches. will OWN you. someone start a schedule post
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OWS Biatches. will OWN you. someone start a schedule post
lol xD
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OWS Biatches. will OWN you.
*high-fives*
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I would probably be interested in playing "competitively". It's just at the moment there isn't enough (good) clans. That's why I didn't join WNx. It would be better of me to lend my bad-assery to another clan, or form my own :).
WNx already has a bunch of people, and a handful of them are some of the best players so far. So, unless I was good friends with some of their members (which isn't the case right now) there is no point in me adding myself to an already bloated clan. You guys should split up and form two or more different clans so there's some decent clan-based competition, hehe.
Still, there just isn't enough serious players right now to bother with organizing anything big. And plus the game itself still needs to be completed, hehe.
We could have some quick free-for-all DM tournaments. Like one-sitting things, where we all play so many rounds/matches, and the lowest person of each round/match is eliminated until there is one left. Or something simple like that. 'Twould be fun.
Iono.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that I would like to participate if you guys ever put together a little tourney or something. Just announce it well ahead of time, so I can practice. I haven't been playing GES too much lately. Been busy with UT3 and a couple other games.
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as long as VC can kill me with a klobb while I have a GG ill continue to think this game is completely about skill.
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Agree whit you Spider!
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as long as VC can kill me with a klobb while I have a GG ill continue to think this game is completely about skill.
VC too cool for school man.
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As PR for the mod and for a long time I have done by action in the past (setting up tournies, running them) and had a mind to start trying to formulate what competitive GE:S should be like now in beta 3.
So far leagues havent seemed to clock onto our diversity or seen a mode/style of server that feels competitive that could be tailored for serious gaming. They obviously dont see the evidence yet that the playerbase will be strong enough to capacitate enough clans to support that, and also certain things like the fact not all the weapons are done can also be a factor.
For now probably the best thing could be the idea of "one sitting" tournaments started inside the community for fun above all else. I just know I am always formulating what GE:S should be aiming to outwardly promote as far as competition.
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So far leagues havent seemed to clock onto our diversity or seen a mode/style of server that feels competitive that could be tailored for serious gaming. They obviously dont see the evidence yet that the playerbase will be strong enough to capacitate enough clans to support that, and also certain things like the fact not all the weapons are done can also be a factor.
For now probably the best thing could be the idea of "one sitting" tournaments started inside the community for fun above all else. I just know I am always formulating what GE:S should be aiming to outwardly promote as far as competition.
they have L4D league matches... So when we're out of beta 3 and our base has picked up once again better believe we'll have them looking into the game. and i agree i think we need all weapons to be sought into a league setup.
I'm all for "one sit" tourneys.. damn.. now i need a clan...
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Hey guys, Game or duel without body armour was competitive? ;3
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I'd join a clan and play "competitively", but I'm a bit crap and some of the WNx people are so good it almost seems pointless.
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Spydow and pain are good too good, just too much.
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If this could get big enough, could have like 3 brackets.
A bracket for players since ~Alpha, so are pretty damn good and know all the secrets/glitches.
Then one for ~Late Beta1, where there better then that a regular player, but might still be unfair to a Alpha player.
Then people who started since Beta3, and by the time this gets up and going, probably merge the Beta1 people with Beta3 foos'.
All just a idea, but I would like to see some sort of bracket system to keep if fair-ish... maybe have a "Ref" spectate games and make sure its a good game and not a blow out, and if not, bump up that team to another bracket/ or lower..... If any of this makes sense or relevant.
And maybe special games where a ~Alpha Team .v.s. the GE:S Team, and set up a server with Source TV so people could watch the Devs get there ass handed to them ;)
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Alpha experience has zero value in Beta 3+, beyond simply having spent more time playing FPS games.
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I would love to play a bracket game!
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If you wanna get better, you should practice.
Noone starts playing and is superb from the beginning.
Knowing the enviroment, weaponplacement (now weaponset related), armorlocation, tactics, pros and cons of each weapon, how to move in certain areas, which doors to keep an eye on, sounds which are telling you where the enemy is at, how to read the radar (if enabled) and so on.
All these things need special training but can improve your skills a lot.
I would really like to see at least one competitive clan beside WN in GES.
It's not a solution to found a new clan on your own, get 2-3 of your friends in there and that's it.
The best you can do is joining an existing clan so it can get bigger and competitive.
As far as i know there are just two active clans right now WN (http://warriornation.net/Forum/forumdisplay.php?f=675) & NW (http://nationswar.net/).
From what i can tell, NW has something about 10 Members which are more or less active ingame and not really active in their Forum (latest post 14 Feb. 2009).
There is also another GES clan called [L|T|K] (http://mi6-licensedtokill.com/) which is currently inactive coz of the lack of active members. (correct me if i'm wrong Wake).
Oh yea and Janus syndicate rather makes machinima then playing GES, so i guess they are not really interested in new recruits for GES.
So if you wanna join a clan, there are at least 3 possibilities to choose from.
Maybe there should be a Link on the Frontpage which leads to the Clan site on the Wiki, coz it's a little difficult to find right now.
The clan site also need to be updated, some of the clans mentioned there are no longer existing or play other games and ain't got GES anymore.
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Watching the in game tags, there are a couple GE:S clans that are getting bigger. as far as new clans there are like {TLP} , {BU}/[GA] , [OWS].
http://www.ges-stats.com/hlstats.php?mode=clans&game=ges
A way to see active clans. (and my owning of KM)
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(and my owning of KM)
I'll let the evidence speak for itself:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/killermonkey01/GE%20Source/evidence.jpg)
See you in WNx servers tonight Major!
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Don't make me come down there.
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Dont forget this new clan too,HK.
see you later guys l3