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Debriefing => Off-Topic Lounge => Topic started by: PPK on March 08, 2009, 05:01:14 pm
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... or football, as we call it here on the eastern side of the pond. I heard that you call it soccer on that country called America.
I can see that many members of this forum are Americans, but I also know that the USA has a pretty good women's soccer national team. Given this, I want to know your opinion about the world most famous and most played sport. No flaming here please and also no fanboy shit.
I can say for myslef that it is my favorite sport and it's my country's national sport, so to speak. So go ahead, kick a round ball for a while and give the old melon a break (the ball used in american football resembles a melon, honestly).
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Dude soccer is boring. Man up and watch ice hockey.
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Dude soccer is boring. Man up and watch ice hockey.
No flaming here please and alos no fanboy shit.
You fail at life.
I like "soccer" cus their good athletes.. they run and run and run and run.. it's intense but i watch "football/foosball" for the strategic turn based routes/plays hard hits. and lol i didnt know we had a womens soccer team.. >.>
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Hockey is my favorite sport. I really try to like soccer, but it is hard. The atmosphere for soccer games are amazing but there are hardly any real scoring chances, just a thousand turn overs. I think offsides is a really dumb rule for soccer given the sparse scoring.
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watch ice hockey.
I find ice hockey to be a bit more violent at times.
I like "soccer" cus their good athletes.. they run and run and run and run.. it's intense but i watch "football/foosball" for the strategic turn based routes/plays hard hits. and lol i didnt know we had a womens soccer team.. >.>
You do, and if I'm not mistaken, you've won the Women's World Cup twice, in 1991 and 1999 and you hosted two Women's World Cup (1999 and 2003) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup#Tournaments), and a World Cup, in 1994, which Brazil won. Also Wikipedia tells me that the USA came third in 1930, the year of the first soccer World Cup. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cup_Football#World_Cup_summaries)
I think offsides is a really dumb rule for soccer given the sparse scoring.
It's to make the game more fair (according to some people), but at times I too get annoyed by that. If a team can do things right, it can avoid them, but not at 100%. It's also a source of controversy at times, because it is difficult to spot and correctly signal, although the referees get it right most of the times. The sparse scoring is natural of the game, since it is played in a different fashion than many other sports, with a greater chance of cutting off passes, but sometimes you watch a match where 4 or 5 goals are scored, and you can call that a great match.
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swLNYmcaheg), a link to a match that Portugal played on 1966 at the World Cup. We came from losing 3-0 against North Korea to winning 5-3, four goals scored by Eusébio
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I think offsides is a really dumb rule for soccer given the sparse scoring.
Actually the offside-rule is a very important part of soccer-gameplay. Offside was introduced because otherwise there would always be a group of players just hanging around the opponent's goal, making the game too static. With offside, players are forced to reposition everytime time posession is gained or lost. And because every player needs to reposition all the time, speedy combinations and short passing is vital, thus making the game more attractive to watch.
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It's really a lot more fun to play sports than to watch them.
However, I do enjoy watching Wimbledon (I'm an avid tennis player) when it's on as well as some Golf. They're pretty fun and relaxing to watch, unlike when everyone is screaming and shouting during Football or Soccer.
Barrelsoccer's more fun. :D
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I can see you are more of a calm sport guy, The SSL, on the likes of golf. I'd like to know how to play golf, it seems a nice sport.
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I give futball players credit for their game. However, its not my choice of sport. I like baseball, football, and basketball. (Go red sox, patriots, and celtics!) look at the avatar haah
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I give futball players credit for their game. However, its not my choice of sport. I like baseball, football, and basketball. (Go red sox, patriots, and celtics!) look at the avatar haah
and bruins OOH RAH
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I don't really understand the allure of physical sports. Well, I can see how it might be fun and advantageous to actually play (in some cases). I just don't understand the fanatics.
And I think it's supremely WRONG that people get paid disgusting amounts of money to kick/throw/hit a ball/puck around while they act like fucking retards, and in some cases, destroy their bodies for the sake of a game. Why don't we just have mindless to-the-death gladiator battles while we're at it?
All sports, in theory, are all great for expressing and developing ones self. But the popular mind sets behind it... I don't know. All I see is just low-brow brutality. Just how many mindless animal-like riots have broken out over a fucking soccer game? It's sickening to the soul, quite frankly. But I suppose the same arguments could be made on pretty much anything. Like what the internet, video games, and tv supposedly does to people.
Maybe I'm just mad for personal reasons.
My father, who has always been a big sports guy, played (American) football in the Air Force, and broke his neck because of it. Because he put so much of himself into it. And for what? For 30 years of mind numbing pain? For totally fucking up his personal life and family life? For causing so many problems that I just don't want to explain right now?
Fuck it. Alright? Fuck it!
Clearly I'm out of my element on this discussion. I just felt the need to vent. My father is FINALLY having neck surgery this Tuesday. I'm very worried, even though that this surgery is fairly common place in this day and age.
I've made it a point not to foolishly destroy my body over a caveman game. Alas, I'm destroying my body by other means. So is life. Lord Christ the Son of God, and the Father the All-Encompassing Creator, have mercy on us all.
Feel free to completely ignore my post. I'd prefer that. This is merely a way for me to vent. But it's always fun to have some SOCIALLY AWKWARD weirdo post randomly serious stuff, no?
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Why do you say that you are socially awkward? I don't think that; in fact, there is no problem with your opinion. I completely understand it and do agree with some points (for example, the amount of money they earn; it should be lowered or instead they should play like it was going out of fashion, every game in order to justify their salaries).
I also wish the best of luck for your father's surgery.
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I say that I'm socially awkward, because, well... I don't know. Back in the day, people always thought I was cool/intelligent/intersting, and that I had a successful future ahead of me. Still, I always had severe problems.
I feel as though everyone is out to harm me. Everything is judging me, even the air I breathe. I'm always lost in my own world. All these thoughts of what is "good", and what is "bad". What place do I hold in this reality? What is reality? What should I do? What comes next? My mind is an ever-furiously-vibrating fuck of an expirience. It's come to the point where I haven't left my apartment in two years, except for a handful of occasions. These occasions total in the lower double-digits. I can't even hold a simple tedious job. Panic.
Yes, I'm sure many people have gone through this and are currently going through this sort of thing. But that offers little comfort. It's hard to relate exactly what is happening in one's own mind. Language simply fails at conveying this sort of thing. It does for me, anyway. But in true reality it may be a simple thing to overcome. I don't know. I need help. I'm currently seeking it. I'm not going to kill myself. If I do, it would be because I slowly starved myself to death while I hoped and prayed for all the best for humanity. And the result of all this is that I lock myself away in these three rooms... talking to myself, playing video games.... trying to grin and bear it. And if my father were to die at this point... I just don't know what I would do. I need him. But the Lord wills what He wills.
I'm 20 years old. Why is this happening to me? I feel as though I'm 80 and at the end of my rope.
*insert indescribable pseudo-intellectual retard babble here*
THAT'S why I say I'm socially awkward. Because everytime I set foot in front of people it becomes some sort of surreal and terrifiying event. And those same people always think otherwise.
Anyway, I don't mean to derail the thread.
I also wish the best of luck for your father's surgery.
Thank you very much, kind sir.
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Dude soccer is boring. Man up and watch ice hockey.
Dude, both of those sports are cool.
Ok, hockey is hella fun. Still, soccer is fun to watch.
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I guarantee I rape all at golf. Unless somehow a community of gamers holds with it TWO amazing golfers. Ten years ago I was told i should try become a pro. I really didnt think it was for me ; and I dont regret that.
Golf = awesome to play and watch
Tennis = awesome to watch, tiring to play LOL
Aussie rules = wins over all of the foot sports
Cricket = funner to play for most people. I like to watch actually.
soccer = not bad. Better watching hilights of champion league matches and the world cup is a MUST even if you dont like soccer overly. Its just epic during that 2 weeks every 4 years
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Golf = Win, what other sport can you play while drunk and do BETTER?
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I don't know Wake, I can keep my own on the golf course... Starting to slip though, I think last game my score was...80, I think.... I was pretty happy...
Then I played the back 9 and score jumped to like 160, and I threw my clubs in the pond..
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Golf = Win, what other sport can you play while drunk and do BETTER?
Amen. I play barefoot. It's the purest game in the world. When else can you just smash the crap out of a stationary object with a long stick, then DRIVE to your ball?
Heaven.
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If you didn't like soccer already, check out this video of the match between Holland and world champion Italy as well as vice-worldchamps France on the European Championships of 2008. Total-football ftw!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj8wqG6d5Hk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj8wqG6d5Hk&feature=related)
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Total-football ftw!!!
FTFW. Now it's correct. I still remember the semi-final of Euro 2004, against Holland. The goal Maniche scored... and the game itself... Now that is football!
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FTFW. Now it's correct. I still remember the semi-final of Euro 2004, against Holland. The goal Maniche scored... and the game itself... Now that is football!
Portugese bastards ;) I remember that game, not exactly a friendly match. Must say the current Dutch team is a lot more creative and stable than the team that reached the semi-finals in 2004. We probably would've won the European Cup last year if Boulahrouz's child hadn't died a few days before the match against Russia.
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Get rid of the idiots that fake injuries and football/soccer would be awesome.
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Get rid of the idiots that fake injuries and football/soccer would be awesome.
We try, but they won't go away. If they fake it and are caught, they are in for a treat. I do agree with you though.
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Yours truly isn't into sports, but likes flag football (all the fun, none of the pain), and doesn't mind soccer when it doesn't involve people who pwn me ruthlessly ( ;D).
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You cannot fake an injury in football, or atleast it is harder to, because you are charged a timeout, and in football that is a very big thing that you need!
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I used to play soccer/football as a goalkeeper in high school, but later quit to focus on swimming. I later joined the american football team as a punter in my last year of high school.
I really don't understand why people dislike it with such fervor in America, every sport has it's ups and downs.
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FIFA World Cup Draw (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/livedraw?cc=5901&ver=us) today. England vs. USA, Portugal vs. Brazil, both North and South Korea in the same competition, and finally Italy aren't finding themselves in a Group of Death.
Bobo, I used to play as a goalkeeper as well back in high school. As far as why so many Americans hate soccer/football so much, I believe its because the national team just wasn't very good for a while. I think that's changing now with the team giving better performances in recent years. It looks to me that soccer's actually growing in popularity now here in the states.
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Soccer does not allow a 380-pound, 88-IQ, fat boy to enjoy three years of fame and glory. That's why USicans don't like soccer.
/of course, not all football players are dumb.
//but some sure as hell are, and if you are big and dumb, football is the only option high school offers you.
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Well said. (x3)
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FIFA World Cup Draw (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/livedraw?cc=5901&ver=us) today. England vs. USA, Portugal vs. Brazil, both North and South Korea in the same competition, and finally Italy aren't finding themselves in a Group of Death.
Let's see how we fair in the World Cup. I think the last time we played against South Korea was in 1966, in another World Cup. We won, but it was a bit costly, at least in the beginning.
I personally don't hold many hopes for my national team. We barely qualified in a group with below-average teams which we should have won with ease. I don't really like our coach nor some of his player choices. I still wonder why are we fetching Brazilians and giving them Portuguese e nationality when we have good Portuguese players...
Well, we'll see how it goes. I hope for the best but I'm expecting the worst.
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in 1966, in another World Cup.
Did someone say 1966?
/singsproudjingle
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Did someone say 1966?
/singsproudjingle
I still wonder why you changed the stadium for the game :D...