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Attention Goldeneye Source Developers!!

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namajnaG:
The fact that a Source mod still has an active community is already a great plus, I can only recall up to five Source mods that still has an active player base, Let alone an active forum.
There are still players and you can still pick a few games, The mod isn't technically "Dead", Fact is, Almost every day I wake up, I see missed invitations on Steam to late-night sessions, I used to play the mod a lot late at night some time ago, And knowing Roadie, There are late games going on nearly every night.

We don't need a thousand players, In fact, I enjoy the small solid community we have, Those players that I've been playing with for the past years are some of the nicest folks and the most fun people to play with that I've ever met on the Internet on any gaming community and in general. Our community might not be huge, But it's fuckin' gold, I can tell that.

Rick Astley:
Goldeneye Source has been mentioned in PC Gamer a couple of times (and the free CD that comes with the magazine has said that this is one of the best ever mods ever made) and the fact that there are alot of servers full at nightime means there is still life in the mod yet

The fact that now that GES is out of Beta is an achievement in itself- most mods have never been out of beta...


there can be always- Viral Campagins like Printing out A4 Sheets with GES Logos and place them on clippboards at work, school, streets, clubs and video rent shops or even Comic Con events?

we can release short trailers on youtube, facebook.twitter and all that it doesnt even need to be the PR section of GES...fellow fans like you and i and he and she and it can do it (ala community style advertising)

if GES Developers and such are looking for new blood why not go to websites like Polycount or something to have competitions for designing charaters or maps? and possibile recruitment for new mappers, game artists or go onto youtube and find people that could do some good orchersations (though im am happy with Basstronix, Goldenzen and Sole Signal- especially tracks like flight from archangel, runway, cradle and streets)

Just some ideas i guess..just thought id try to help :)

markpeterjameslegg:

--- Quote from: terps4life90 on December 02, 2012, 12:08:41 am ---I think we all know the main reason why Goldeneye: Source isn't a very active mod. I can sum it up in two words. "Fucking advertise EVERYWHERE." Excuse me 3 words. I mean shit...this doesn't make sense how we finally have what we all have been waiting for but barely anyone plays it!?!?!?!?!?!?! All of us remember goldeneye on the n64 was one of the greatest games ever, Remember when we all thought it was getting a remake for XBLA and how happy everyone in the world was?!?!?! How the fuck does this mod not have a million players and if one of you retorts and says "The graphics are shit" i will find out where you live and punch you repetitively in the face everyday as soon as you wake up until you die! WE all know this game beats basically any game on the market, even in today's world. You guy seriously need to stop asking for the community to help and step your game up. I get that there are legal issues and copyright bullshit but there are ways around it. I applaud each and everyone of you who have made this game possible. You all should be proud of yourselves. Just becuase not a lot of people play this doesn't mean you can half ass your marketing skills. Don't take my criticism to harshly but honestly i don't think it  was any secret. OK RANT OVER.

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Another reason for the lack of popularity is a combination of the faithful re-creation of the original Goldeneye mechanics (Invulnerability System + High Health Limit) and the dedicated hardcore players that over the years have mastered their aim, and in doing so generally tend to own new players, unfortunately many come and are scared away by these two elements, including people I have introduced.

Peroxwhy?gen:
I always tell new comers that it takes time and practice when they play, i play almost everyday to enjoy that awesome old school feel and i wish others did too.  But to be honest i never go on amd not see anyone. Even if its 2 people that are playing a rush comes in of 7 or 8 people at once. I believe this mod is far from dead

kraid:
Exposure isn't our issue since we've been in several different media through the years.

One reason i see is that the generation of players who knows Goldeneye first hand doesn't have much time anymore because of job, family etc.
And the newer generation got corrupted by the CoD style and mechanics of beeing rewarded with gameplay advantages for long playing times.

Also the ammount of new games released is very high.

Another reason that hasn't been mentioned before is that our game doesn't cost money.
PPL are more willing to give a game a second chance if they bought it.
All the free to play titles are suffering from a huge ammount of players trying the game once and never come back again. (ok, some of this might be related to poor quality too, but not in every case)
In the end the same applies to our game.

Allthough no purchased steam game is neccessary anymore, some ppl are still not willing to use steam or even a PC for gaming, especially lots of console only gamers.
We cannot reach these ppl at all. Unfortunatly there are also lots of Goldeneye fans among them.

The next issue is Valve itself, throwing randomly bugs at their SDK that either frustrate users by crashing the game or preventing it to work correctly (server browser, invalid steam key size, etc.).

So, the question is:  What to do about it?

We sadly have to live with the Source engine issues, since switching the mod to another engine isn't an option at this advanced state.

We cannot (and never wanted to) sell the game, have it exposed officially on steam/greenlight or advertise it openly for obviouse reasons. So we're restricted to guerillia tactics.

A few ideas that come to my mind:
- more youtube videos, possibly with the help of SFM
- advertisement in other multiplayer games with custom sprays
- custom advertisement decals in maps for e.g. CSS/CS:GO/TF2 on servers of clans or admins supporting us.
- regulary posting screenshots on the steam community and invite everyone in your steam friends list to the GES groop.

All of these can be done with the help of the community.

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