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Game mode programmer (cont'd)
Sergeant Kelly:
--- Quote from: Troy on July 30, 2012, 12:13:56 am ---Oh okay, so they have the right to take people's work and do what they please with it? In the real world that is what a patent is for.
I need to be informed of what has changed. You don't tamper with one's work without asking first.
How do you suggest I take suggestions when I can't see what the team has said?
I may not have the final say but I have a HUGE say.
I have a better idea. How about you remove these modes from 4.2 and go back to the awful versions of TDM and gun game?
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I honestly don't think making threats is going to sway anyone to accept you onto the team. Like Mangely just said, you'll need to learn to take criticism and advice without blowing up. I had a third party contributor working for my mod who reacted very adversely to criticism and had a quick temper. He worked well for a couple months before I ordered a second member to absorb some of his duties. The guy exploded and we ended up banning him from the forums entirely. Those are not the kind of people that work well on a development team where there is a lot of criticism.
Additionally, contributing content doesn't give you a HUGE say in a mod's development. I've made some icons for the game and I'm honored to have them in. That doesn't give me any say in what they're used for. Likewise, the people who send me shotgun models don't have control of whether I turn it into a melee weapon or not, however if they kindly and politely ask for it, I'd be far more likely to adjust it.
killermonkey:
--- Quote --- I have a better idea. How about you remove these modes from 4.2 and go back to the awful versions of TDM and gun game?
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Sounds good to me. I don't want to deal with heartache or have another Armored Fury incident on my hands. You have basically left me no choice but to pull these modes from 4.2, I will not respond to to "do it or else" threats.
And yes, I read your original post. Editing it doesn't change what I know you really wanted to say.
Troy:
--- Quote from: Mangley on July 30, 2012, 12:40:05 am ---Lets be clear here. You respond to criticism with upmost hostility and spite, which says to me that you are only looking for praise rather than wanting honest feedback.
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That's absurd. Do you have any idea how much feedback E-S has given me? We have talked for hours and he's one of the reasons the modes are at the level they are now.
--- Quote from: Mangley on July 30, 2012, 12:40:05 am ---This is a big problem because you would have to deal with constant criticism on your work, including from me and others on the team who you are not necessarily on good terms with.
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Lets be clear here Mangley. This whole conflict between you and me started when E-S and BigBird were going after the #1 spot on the ges-stats page. Bird asked me to mess with E-S a little bit, so he would stop playing, and Bird could remain #1. Thinking back on all of this, it was extremely silly.
--- Quote from: Mangley on July 30, 2012, 12:40:05 am ---My opinion is that until you can control your emotions and let go of your grudges you would simply be boiling under the surface, and be the source of a continuous problem within the status-quo of the team. Simply pretending to be respectful and professional doesn't earn you respect here, just for the record.
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If you recall, I added you and E-S so we could reconcile. I would actually consider E-S a friend now. You on the other hand continued to act in the same childish manner. Spiting my posts and trolling me. You are the one who needs to let the grudge go.
--- Quote from: Mangley on July 30, 2012, 12:40:05 am ---What I'd really like for you to do is to impress the fuck out of me.
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At this point in time, I am not motivated to do anything more. It seems to me anything I do will receive a spite from you out of discontent.
Troy:
--- Quote from: Sergeant Kelly on July 30, 2012, 03:13:10 am ---Like Mangely just said, you'll need to learn to take criticism and advice without blowing up.
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Again, I have no idea where you are getting this from.
--- Quote from: Sergeant Kelly on July 30, 2012, 03:13:10 am ---I've made some icons for the game and I'm honored to have them in. That doesn't give me any say in what they're used for.
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There's a difference in saying what they're used for and modifying them without your consent.
Troy:
--- Quote from: killermonkey on July 30, 2012, 03:17:08 am ---And yes, I read your original post. Editing it doesn't change what I know you really wanted to say.
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Good, I'm not trying to hide anything. I hope you don't sink so low as you take what I've done, recode it yourself, and claim you made it. Then you'd really be showing the community your true colors.
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