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[Suggestion] Zoom control while aiming (KF7,AR33,Sniper Rifle)

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Player1srb:
First, I'd like to congratulate you guys for reincarnating one of the best classic FPS games, and you did it in a fantastic way! So far, I've seen you payed attention to a lot of details, as from the good old N64 game and from the actual movie, and you managed to pack it into the Source engine - it turned out brilliant! ;)
I've been following this mod once in a while for years, but my first test-play was when 4.1 came out. I'm not much into playing BETA versions, and besides, I don't have any original game so I can download SDK from Steam. I borrowed my friends Steam account to play this, because he has the original Orange Box. I know I can download games from Steam for a few bucks, but I live in Serbia, and if you're familiar with how in deep shit this country is, you'd realize we can't even order stuff from eBay or Amazon. :) Ok, enough of that, let's get to the point now.

- As we all know, in the original N64 game, whenever we hold KF7 Soviet, AR33 or Sniper rifle, while pressing the aiming button, those weapons zoom in. But even then, with yellow arrow "up" and "down" buttons, we could increase or decrease level of zoom. I don't remember for the first two, but I'm sure Sniper could zoom in a bit more. I think this feature (for example, using the scroll wheel) would come in handy very much, especially when using the Sniper rifle, because it zooms in to the max, and it's very difficult to aim, if the area is smaller than something opened like Cradle or Runway.

I remember, around 2 months ago, Wake was playing with us one night and I mentioned that to him, I think he said that maybe there already is a post with this suggestion, so if there is, just let me know, and I'll delete this one.

The reason I'm posting this 2 months later is that I had problem with registration here, I couldn't receive the confirmation email, but finally, I got that fixed. :)

Ruone Delacroix:
I think that's its a pretty good idea. And what's strange is that my friend was just talking about that the other night too. It would be nice as you said for smaller/less open maps so that you can pop up the crosshairs for a quick kill.

+1 Support

Mangley:
It was only the sniper rifle that had this variable zoom. The KF7 and AR33 had fixed zoom, so at the moment the KF7 and AR33 were just as they were.

As for the sniper rifle, I believe it was decided to have a fixed zoom for the sniper in multiplayer because it played quicker and helped to balance it out as a long range weapon, making it less of an all-purpose weapon, it's more difficult to use it in close-medium range...

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VC:
It has been discussed a few times over the years.

The gain is a small piece of configuration-freedom.

The loss is adding two more buttons, more code (that fights with Source's idea of how player FOV should work over the internet), and having to teach most players about the feature, just so the one weapon with which zoom is actually significant can be slightly more flexible.

Low priority.


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Ruone Delacroix:
What if it was set up so if you bring up the crosshairs, then you can hit a button to toggle between the zoom and non-zoom? I know that it probably would be too much work to implement for just one gun, but it would only require one button instead of two. I don't know the inner working of the source engine and the programming, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see the response.

It may just be a bit much to do overall though.

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