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Question for the devs
« on: March 30, 2009, 04:16:33 am »
do you guys still use Visual Studio C++ 2005 or have you switched to 2008
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 08:18:18 am »
We are on 2008 atm
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 09:30:10 am »
I hear t'is less stable, aye?
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 10:05:29 am »
at the moment? do you guys plan on switching?
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 12:56:14 pm »
At the moment = NOW, we switched back in August

It is not less stable at all, I find it to be excellent. The only annoying thing is when code is "preprocessed" to not compile it doesn't allow you to use the Right-Click follow function commands on the code... and since Source uses many "shared" code between Server and Client it gets really annoying really quickly, but it is also easier to see where the server code is... meh
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 04:07:41 pm »
On an unrelated note, is C++ hard to learn?
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 04:22:02 pm »
Not really, but it is very detail-oriented.  If you are sloppy it will crush your soul.  If you are pedantic it will do anything you like.
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 04:50:46 pm »
Quote from: eamonn on March 30, 2009, 04:07:41 pm
On an unrelated note, is C++ hard to learn?

only for vc ;P
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 08:52:01 pm »
Quote from: eamonn on March 30, 2009, 04:07:41 pm
On an unrelated note, is C++ hard to learn?

not hard, but not easy, either.
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 09:05:42 pm »
all thats needed to learn C++ is: a brain, patience, lots of free time, Good learning materials

most people will only ever meet 2 of those requirements so it can be a hard skill to acquire.
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2009, 10:14:35 pm »
unless you are creating games, i really don't see a need to learn C++
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2009, 11:34:59 pm »
If you want to write software you learn C++.
If you want to write a script to manipulate the software that a real coder wrote, you learn LUA or Python.
If you want to very quickly slap together something to run exclusively in Windows using the GUI interface and you have no concern for performance, you use Visual Basic and then you set yourself on fire to burn off the fail.
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2009, 11:44:35 pm »
Quote from: Viashino Cutthroat on March 30, 2009, 11:34:59 pm
If you want to write software you learn C++.
If you want to write a script to manipulate the software that a real coder wrote, you learn LUA or Python.
If you want to very quickly slap together something to run exclusively in Windows using the GUI interface and you have no concern for performance, you use Visual Basic or C# and then you set yourself on fire to burn off the fail.

fixed. :D
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 12:07:58 am »
++reputation;
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Re: Question for the devs
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2009, 12:13:22 am »
I've recently decided that I want to learn how to program. If I'm going to sit in front of a computer for disgusting amounts of time, I might as well learn a useful skill.

I decided to start with Visual Basic, since that seems to be the easiest to learn, from what I can gather. I'm nearly finished with the "Visual Basic 2008 Express Edition" guided tour, with it's seemingly trivial and barely explained examples. A few things are lost on me so far, but I think I'm following most of it. I'm certain I could learn it if I put forth a concentrated effort.

Is it a wise move to start with Visual Basic, or should I just start learning with C++? I know there is no clear answer for that, I just wanted to know what your guys' recommendations are.

I definitely intend to pick up a couple of books next month. Are there any particular books you guys would recommend?
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