Debriefing > Impressions & Feedback
Start with PP7 by default?
Kratos:
lol
valkyrie_dawn:
I agree with this topic. I think all servers, unless specifically slappers servers, should spawn you with a PP7 by default. However, while we're on the subject of slappers, I would like to impress upon the design team that the slappers are inordinately difficult to use. There is no real indication of whether or not you connected, and the range of attack is VERY small. Of course, I'm not asking for a sniper slap, but there isn't any clear range. I've played with it a bit, and I still find myself unable to get a feel for how close I need to be to initiate my slap. A slight lunge might help matters, giving players a more visceral feel when they charge in for the attack, and also allowing slappers to close the distance when cornered by one of their gun wielding counterparts, thus making the slapper seem like a more viable weapon, rather than something that you are stuck with.
Sp1nn3y:
this is defiantly up to the server owners... i really think what it is now is fine.. random weapon set's and random weapons works for me... why start off with a gun.. ALWAYS? half the battle is getting a gun in those servers you start with nothing
valkyrie_dawn:
--- Quote from: Sp1nn3y on February 12, 2009, 06:50:27 pm ---this is defiantly up to the server owners... i really think what it is now is fine.. random weapon set's and random weapons works for me... why start off with a gun.. ALWAYS? half the battle is getting a gun in those servers you start with nothing
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True, but when the server has upwards of 14 people running around, 12 of whom are packing, spawning becomes more of an exercise in futility than anything else. Trying to find a gun whilst a shotgun wielding fiend is so close behind you that his barrel is tickling your sphincter may be fun once in a while, but when it starts happening every time you spawn, it just becomes frustrating.
PPK:
--- Quote from: valkyrie_dawn on February 12, 2009, 06:48:30 pm ---<wall text here, check the above post>
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The slappers are one of the "weapons" that still have an itchy hit detection, one of the problems that bugged Beta 1.1. Nevertheless they are being worked on in order to get some improvements on the faulty fields.
On another note, I agree with stating armed with a PP7. It get really annoying when you spawn only to realize you can only slap people in the face and you happen to find that the person right in front of you is an armed foe. You should get the chance to at least scratch RCP90-wielding enemy right out of the spawn point.
The slappers have always been a last resort weapon, ahead of the Klobb. It is normal the their base damage remains the same but their effectiveness in combat increases when the hit detection issues are resolved. Until then, we will have to stick to what we got and pray to God to make you run faster.
Now responding to Sp1nn3y's post: it is difficult to get a gun in crowded servers because you'll always get someone who'll steal your weapon or ammo. I think that in some situations starting with a PP7 or other small gun would help, specially if the server's weapon set is power weapons.
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