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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2010, 11:35:43 am »

Hey Rodney, glad to hear you're upgrading your rig!

Anyway, here's an idea for a case:

http://otvtech.com/catalogue.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_stock.tpl&product_id=4917&category_id=757

It offers terrific cooling options at an affordable price point.  It's also from a great company, so you know name-brands are good. ;)

Your CPU choice is great - I've heard / read a lot of good things about the i5-760.

For the RAM, I've heard good things about Patriot.  High-performance brand RAM, like Corsair or OCZ Gold or whatever is real important if you plan to do any over clocking.  If not, then it's merely a matter of seeing whether or not the RAM is compatible with the board.  Generally, if the RAM you're looking at has a speed supported by the board, it'll work.

That being said, it's always a good idea to wander over to the board's website to see if you can find a RAM-compatibility list.

4GB of 1333Mhz speed DDR3 RAM should be fine for whatever you're planning to use your computer for (I'm guessing mostly play GE:S  :P)

As namajnaG mentioned, you can always add more RAM later on if your needs change. 

I definitely agree w/ Major on the board.  Those slots are a bit close to comfort.  You may want to think about doing a little bit more shopping around.  As an example, here is a cheaper board with more breathing room:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157178

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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2010, 12:01:47 pm »

Hey Rodney, glad to hear you're upgrading your rig!

Anyway, here's an idea for a case:

http://otvtech.com/catalogue.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_stock.tpl&product_id=4917&category_id=757

It offers terrific cooling options at an affordable price point.  It's also from a great company, so you know name-brands are good. ;)

I agree, Coolermaster is a great brand as well, Has a nice design too IMO.

Although I forgot to specify to think of adding a power supply in your computer if you take this case or the case I suggested before (Or any other cases that specify "NO PSU".) This one that JJ suggested is more affordable though and should do the same job.

A 430W should cost around 30$, And has a pretty limited life if you leave your PC open 24/7 like I do. Had to change it 2 months after the purchase.
Although, If you do not leave your PC opened 24/7 it should last long.

A 650W is around 90$, So its pretty expensive, But its tough.
I don't know about a 500W, Must be around 60-70$. Never used these though, So I don't know about its lifetime.
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2010, 12:12:01 pm »

I've recently decided to upgrade to a new computer myself (due to my graphics card dying ingame) and I'm going for the i5 760 myself.

As for the RAM I'm going with G-Skill (CL 9, but 1600 Mhz)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277&cm_re=gskill_ripjaw_1600-_-20-231-277-_-Product

and my case is a Xigmatek Midgard - it's huge, so it provides enough space for a GTX 470 (and the price should be around 70 $). The only downside is the power source is on the bottom.

A friend of mine told me yesterday, that I might need to flash my BIOS to a newer version with the P7P55D mainboard, and since yours is looking like its brother, you might also need to. (Because the P7P55D would recognise the intel i5 with 2,8 Ghz only at 2,6 Ghz otherwise)

Can't wait for saturday - because by then my computer will be ready. :-)

As for the power supply, it heavily depends on your graphics card, which one you'll need.
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2010, 02:40:10 pm »

I have to leave in 2 minutes but I'll say that I got a new PSU (600W) when I bought the GPU.
I'll follow-up on the input when I get back. :)

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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2010, 10:39:47 pm »

Hey Rodney, glad to hear you're upgrading your rig!
I'm replacing my rig. :P

Just a note, for those who said "good choice on 'x'", the motherboard and CPU weren't so much "choice" as "budget". ::)

Those components are pretty good. Only issue is since that motherboard is M-ATX it only has two PCI. So if you ever get a dual slot video card, you'll be down to one PCI.
That completely slipped my mind. Alright, so M-ATX factors are out.

I'll scan over possibilities for Batch 2 later. (Including the case; That looks like a gooder jj, but I'm not sure my desk will accommodate it...)
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2010, 01:27:47 am »

Rodney, have you ever thought about going the AMD route?  It'll offer similar performance, more flexibility, and free up some more of your hard-earned $$.  I mention this because of your strict budget.

Regarding the case, you can always have it on the floor next to your desk - provided you put down a book or a small board to keep the computer off the ground for ventilation.  In my dorm room, I have my compy sitting on a chair next to my desk.  :P
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2010, 02:18:31 am »

I have an AMD now and I'm permanently paranoid because of how shitty my luck has been for three years.
Now I know lumping is an idiotic way of thinking but 1095 days of wasting my time, effort and money has taken its toll and I don't want to take any chances whatsoever. (Which was why I went way overkill with the 460 GTX...)

In the end that is the major difference: AMD is cheaper and more flexible but for a reason, and Intel is the powerhouse but requires $$$ and *KM apparently issues with them...
So I don't know. I know I could Google AMD and Intel but everyone says different things etc etc, so I may as well get advice from those I already trust and have personal experience. :)
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If I didn't make any sense let me know.

* That alone seems like a good reason...
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2010, 03:15:35 am »

In the end that is the major difference: AMD is cheaper and more flexible but for a reason, and Intel is the powerhouse but requires $$$ and *KM apparently issues with them...

KM has issues with what? I haven't bought a processor in over two years, which was a Core 2 Duo. I must say its been the best processor I've ever had. I am totally out of touch with the current level of technology though, I have no need to upgrade my rig, it still runs all the programs and games I use. I guess that speaks to the power of the Intel line :-/

However, I do run an AMD in my HP Tablet, the Z-80 to be exact. It has the integrated HD 3200 video processor on it. I am also impressed with that, but it pales in comparison to the Core 2 Duo, not that I expect it to be equals.

For a real life comparison, it takes 5 min to do a complete rebuild of the GES mod on my desktop and over 25 minutes on my laptop. Both use two cores to do the building on VS2010. My linux box (backup, server, etc.) takes roughly 20 minutes to do complete build with G++ (notoriously SLOW) and is only single core Pentium 4.
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #68 on: October 29, 2010, 04:12:21 am »

(notoriously SLOW) and is only single core Pentium 4.

Back then, Pentium 4 CPU's were fucking top of the line processors LOL! Now they are at the way bottom of the cpu shit list hahhaaa
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2010, 05:00:04 am »

KM has issues with what? I haven't bought a processor in over two years, which was a Core 2 Duo.

Oh, I heard somewhere that you were big on AMDs and have a dislike for Intels due to limited upgrading options. (or something) *coughSaintsaidcough*

Which brings me to the next CPU query: Dual or quad? When I went into this thing in '07 my thought process was "Prepare for future use; sure, nothing uses it now but it'll come, and you'll be prepared."
At the moment, I can say that I don't really play anything new... That might be because of the performance I'm getting but also because not much holds my interest anymore. I imagine I would give newer stuff a try if I could handle it, so which would be the better way to go? (And by "handle it" I mean 60fps with the settings on high sans anti-aliasing. (but if I can get anything in AA I'm all for it.))
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2010, 05:40:12 am »

Going dual would IMHO be stupid.
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #71 on: October 29, 2010, 07:13:24 am »

Sure, Going dual is pretty bad.
I own a dual core myself. (Intel E7500 2.93GHz) I would had got a quad, But I was lacking funds.

Although, If you mean running GE:S at 60FPS you will have absolutely no problems at all, Even with anti-aliasing on with a dual. (Be sure to grab a good video card though. I know you will.)
Although I highly recommend going for a quad core.

If you play games such as BF Bad Company 2 with a dual, You will notice the game runs smooth, But takes a very long time to load.
Going quad is the way to go.

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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #73 on: October 29, 2010, 11:15:49 am »

or even triple core if you want: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103872

That depends if he is going for Intel or AMD.

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Re: Less-Than-Shite Performance
« Reply #74 on: October 29, 2010, 11:32:43 am »

I think the CPU you first picked is best bet. Once you decide if your gonna get a larger mobo(then needs a new case) you should be all good to go.

My Q6600 has been pretty great. Holding strong for a couple years (even with a 800MHZ OC). I hold Intel CPU's high. I frankly think of AMD as a great choice if your on a budget. If you need a really cheap quadcore that your gonna use as a media center or just for video rendering its a great choice. While even thought Intel is higher priced, its more of a all around work horse. And Intel CPU's seem to stay relevant longer.
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