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Wait
« on: February 14, 2009, 10:03:12 pm »
Wait seems to be completely dissabled regardless of the sv_allow_wait_command
 I agree it should be dissabled in tournaments and clan wars.
Is this an engine wide thing or just GE:S?  I deleted all my OB engine games due to not being able to start the OB SDK base so cannot check.

It makes it impossible to execute this cfg


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sv_allow_wait_command 1
alias "wait10" "wait; wait; wait; wait; wait; wait; wait; wait; wait; wait"
alias "wait50" "wait10; wait10; wait10; wait10; wait10"
alias "wait100" "wait50; wait50"
alias "wait500" "wait100; wait100; wait100; wait100; wait100"
alias "wait1000" "wait500; wait500"
alias "waita" "wait100;wait100;wait50"
alias "waitb" "wait100;wait100;wait100;wait50"

// start settings
hostname "Match mode"


//Server settings here if different........

ge_restartround 1
say "Get ready starting  match.";waita;
say "**** 5 ****";waitb;
say "**** 4 ****";waitb;
say "**** 3 ****";waitb;
say "**** 2 ****";waitb;
say "**** 1 ****";waitb;
say "!!!! LIVE !!!!"
sv_allow_wait_command 0
« Last Edit: February 14, 2009, 10:06:25 pm by keefy »
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Re: Wait
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2009, 10:17:07 pm »
This is VC stomps the guts out of exploits.  Wait allows all kinds of scripting bullshit, taking scripts beyond convenience and configuration of input and into direct automation territory.  No me gusta.  If you want special consideration for some particular tournament mode, write a draft of what you would like and post it in the What Do You Want In Beta X thread.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2009, 10:18:51 pm by Viashino Cutthroat »
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Re: Wait
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2009, 10:18:37 pm »
execing that cfg is not an exploit.
Valve put in the command so it could be dissabled in matches.
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Re: Wait
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2009, 10:19:31 pm »
Bump for my edit.

Exactly where did I say that that script was an exploit? I didn't. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.
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Re: Wait
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2009, 10:22:43 pm »
I was tryign to write an automated script that utilised the wait command to inform new players of the game modes but since discovering wait is dissabled I have managed a different way of doing it but using the waits would have meant only 1 key press instead of 3 or 4.

This is what i came up with.
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alias "MWTGG" "MWTGG1"
alias "MWTGG1" "say The object is to gain control of the golden gun since it is the only 1 hit kill weapon in this mode; alias MWTGG MWTGG2"
alias "MWTGG2" "say The Golden gun appears on the radar so everyone knows where it is; alias MWTGG MWTGG3"
alias "MWTGG3" "say and once picked up the player carrying it shows up as a YELLOW dot; alias MWTGG MWTGG4" 
alias "MWTGG4" "say Whoever controls the golden gun CANNOT pickup the armour; alias MWTGG MWTGG1"
bind "capslock" "MWTGG"

Yes wait does allow for some dodgy thigs but there was already acommand to dissable it thats all.
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Re: Wait
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2009, 10:29:50 pm »
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alias "+MWTGG" "say Scenario--Man with the Golden Gun. Objective--Control the always-lethal Golden Gun and earn the most frags."
alias "-MWTGG" "say The holder of the Golden Gun is yellow on the radar, and cannot re-acquire body armor."
bind capslock +MWTGG
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Re: Wait
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2009, 10:30:50 pm »
What is the Wait command exactly? I'm having a hard time following this.
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Re: Wait
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2009, 10:33:35 pm »
It allows you to insert a delay into an alias.  That means you can write all kinds of hack-ish shit and pwn without any requisite skill, such as automatic fire with scoped weapons, animation delay bypasses, no recoil tricks, well, anything Counterstrike-related.

Removing wait keeps everyone honest, since you can write scripts, but you must trigger them manually.
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Re: Wait
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 10:35:40 pm »
Thats alias does not work VC it jsut says the first line only"
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Re: Wait
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2009, 10:41:33 pm »
I figured it would; maybe capslock doesn't produce a key-up event. Does it work on another key?
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Re: Wait
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2009, 11:15:14 pm »
This will be fixed in the patch, users can type "!help" to get a description of the gameplay
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Re: Wait
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2009, 11:32:26 pm »
Quote from: Viashino Cutthroat on February 14, 2009, 10:33:35 pm
It allows you to insert a delay into an alias.  That means you can write all kinds of hack-ish shit and pwn without any requisite skill, such as automatic fire with scoped weapons, animation delay bypasses, no recoil tricks, well, anything Counterstrike-related.

Removing wait keeps everyone honest, since you can write scripts, but you must trigger them manually.

Thanks for the info.
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Re: Wait
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2009, 12:03:20 am »
Its not as bad as you make out, but if you want to dissable it then so be it. 


 
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I figured it would; maybe capslock doesn't produce a key-up event. Does it work on another key?
No it didnt work on any key
"OMG ther isnt any any key"
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Re: Wait
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2009, 12:51:57 am »
Quote from: Viashino Cutthroat on February 14, 2009, 10:33:35 pm
It allows you to insert a delay into an alias.  That means you can write all kinds of hack-ish shit and pwn without any requisite skill, such as automatic fire with scoped weapons, animation delay bypasses, no recoil tricks, well, anything Counterstrike-related.

Removing wait keeps everyone honest, since you can write scripts, but you must trigger them manually.

Best way i've seen it put... I agree 100%, every server i have admin in i make it to a point to ban scripts.. because they give so many unfair advantages to those who consider themselves "l33t".
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Re: Wait
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2009, 01:21:14 am »
Scripts dont make a player better if you are good you are good simple as that.
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