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[Jeron [SharpSh00tah]]

You all should join my group!


https://www.facebook.com/Bush.Ruined.America


Also, read the material posted, they are good reads

[Mangley]

To say he ruined America kind of implies that America was perfectly fine before...

[killermonkey]

Uneducated morons in America ruined America. This category not only includes Bush, but also everyone else who refuses to wake up and notice what the fuck is going on around them on a daily basis...

[Jeron [SharpSh00tah]]

America has been fucked up long before bush. There is ALOT of shit going on that people have no clue about. JFK was the only president who wanted to restructure the federal reserve to strip the power away from it, and we all see how that worked out. America is FUBAR. Its sad to see how everything is slowly being taken away from us, but nobody ever does their homework. A good start is to read about the patriot act. I just love the fact that bush had to finish his fathers war, in (originally named) Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL). He had to change the name to Operation Iraqi Freedom. And another thing is congress only gave him the authority to engage any country, person, or group that had direct involvement with 9-11. Iraq did not. Its so bullshit, and so much crap going on right in front of us, i just wish people would wake up.

[Proxie]

inb4 Ron Paul 2012

[Mike [fourtecks]]

The views I have about this FB page are about the same as about my views on lawn signs. That ain't good. I'm apathetic with politics so I don't feel like ranting about it.

[Kratos]

America has been fucked up long before bush. There is ALOT of shit going on that people have no clue about. JFK was the only president who wanted to restructure the federal reserve to strip the power away from it, and we all see how that worked out. America is FUBAR. Its sad to see how everything is slowly being taken away from us, but nobody ever does their homework. A good start is to read about the patriot act. I just love the fact that bush had to finish his fathers war, in (originally named) Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL). He had to change the name to Operation Iraqi Freedom. And another thing is congress only gave him the authority to engage any country, person, or group that had direct involvement with 9-11. Iraq did not. Its so bullshit, and so much crap going on right in front of us, i just wish people would wake up.

I agree man! Its so bull shit!

sorry, i dont care about the economy anymore, the entire structure is falling apart and the only way to fix it is to remove the dumbass people in the office.

On the other hand, all I care for is GES v4.2. Whose excited?

[Wake[of]theBunT]

Well, technically Jeron it doesn't matter what congress says. Any sitting president can send any branch of armed forces anywhere he pleases. Commander in chief. Supreme command authority exists there.

What you say amounts in reality to stating that Bush had an undeclared war on Iraq. His title legally empowered him to make a decision to rid the world of "tyranny" as he stated. The voters are to blame for putting someone there willing to wage wars based on personal opinion and past grievance.

America was fucked up during the bush years because of the people voted him in. America HAS been fucked up ongoing for 30 years since your country started favoring wall street financially, printing money to cover debt, and waging a million wars that strip your economy and instill class gaps and propel unemployment. Just in the bush times those poor decisions over the last half century were given a horrible agenda that made the mistakes evident to joe average if he decided not to be so ignorant.

This tea party shit was so lame I can't even talk about it beyond name calling it's retardedness.

[markpeterjameslegg]

United Kingdom is fucked up as well chaps, fucking governments out for power and money, the latest thing the government keeps on about is droughts in the UK, stupid thing is it's been raining for months, I figure it's only a matter of time before they come up with drought charges,it's like congestion charges, the government are the fucking reason we have congestion in the first place, the UK is over crowded, there's no jobs, more homeless appearing all the time, at least 50 percent of crime in the UK is because of people not even from this country, yet they still come in by the thousands.

[killermonkey]

Wake, you need to edumacate yourself on US policy b4 commenting....

The president DOES NOT have cart blanche authority over the military. Congress, in 2001, authorized the president that authority to engage all enemies of the United States responsible for the September 11 attacks. Obviously, this was abused, but none the less Congressional authority is required to engage in war with another nation (it's explicitly written in the Constitution).

The President is the Commander in Chief, but cannot use the forces outside of the United States for war w/o Congressional authority. This is why Congress was pissed off when Obama ordered the Navy to attack Libya. Obama overstepped his authority.

[Wake[of]theBunT]

I don't have to do any educating before commenting maybe read my comments again. Presidents can send armed forces anywhere for any reason, which is why Obama is all cherry.

I never said they could declare wars without co-operation from government. Completely different story. And btw the only reason congress needs including is a financial one. If a war is being waged on a scale requiring ongoing troops and funding the congress signs off on exactly that aspect.

What you read from what I said and your example would only be a "political" issue, not a legal one. So congress gets all butt-hurt they were circumvented and claim a president did something without authorization, well unless you declare war the president didn't do anything wrong! Pure politics at work by congress. Which wouldn't be all that surprising.

[Jeron [SharpSh00tah]]

Voters I believe did not place bush into office. Remember that in the 2000 elections, Bushs' brother, Jeb, was the governer in Florida. Coincedentially, Florida miscounted the votes (three times, in my recollection), and delayed the results. Research shows that hundreds of dead people, voted for Bush, and threw the election. If Florida ran legitimate counting, Bush would not have gotten into office. Gore would have.

as far as what wake says, he is right (upon clearing up what he said with his second post) I do have to agree.