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 on: September 08, 2020, 02:16:36 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Multiplayer_X_
Mangley...   ;D    The meme made me laugh. Very good points TAKEN sir.  8)

I'm going to start FRESH and remove bad maps from the server that aren't working correctly. I'm also going to start being more patient and open to improving things and taking suggestions on how to do so.

 on: September 06, 2020, 05:21:43 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Mangley
We definitely have complete different perceptions on what respect means


If your interpretation of respect is in the right then I would hope we would see behaviour in accordance with that, like respecting other people's work or property and not stealing maps and content from other games with absolutely no knowledge or consent from their authors.

 on: September 06, 2020, 12:51:31 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Multiplayer_X_
Okay. I will just drop the whole thing. We definitely have complete different perceptions on what respect means but I can sense this is a no win situation on my end so I will take a bow off the debate stage.  ::)   8)

Regardless, all of you take care just the same.  Multi

 on: September 06, 2020, 02:52:10 am 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by soupcan
Ultimately I don't care about you or whether you respect me/us. As E-S said we're simply apathetic. But that doesn't stop us from noticing the irony when you make an "apology" here (it's debatable whether the way it's written is even an apology) and then go somewhere else and join the "rebellion" against us "GODS".

Nowhere did I attack you or your beliefs; I am attacking your actions.

I am aware there is a small section of the community that doesn't like the development team. That's fine; they'll do their thing and we'll do ours. They don't bother us that way. I think it's about time you did the same.

It's obvious by this point that you're going to make content of questionable quality, we're going to call you out for it and then you're going to make excuses for the 50th time. After long enough you're probably going to make another apology thread. Rinse, repeat.

Do us both a favor and forget about the forums.

 on: September 05, 2020, 07:54:35 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Multiplayer_X_
Word?  My apology is sincere but I'm not playing psychological head games either. You are you, I am me. I have nothing bad to say about anyone. I don't know you and none of you know me. I can't judge or condemn you because I don't know you.

Now, you have judged me and psycho analyzed everything I say and do and use it to try and convince others I'm a bad person or whatever but I won't do that. I have better things to do with my time than to try and win over someone's respect over TRIVIAL things. I really don't understand your point but OKAY. Believe what you want about me. There are 50 other people that will disagree with you so if you make this a personal vendetta or flame war that is all on you.

I'm not kissing anyone's ass if that's the kind of apology you are looking for. lol  I haven't done anything morally or ethically wrong to you as a person so why are you attacking my personality and beliefs?   :O

 on: September 05, 2020, 03:42:03 am 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by soupcan
Thanks for turning around so quickly and posting elsewhere that your apology was insincere.



 on: September 04, 2020, 02:02:00 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Multiplayer_X_
I am going to slow down on releasing content both in map ports and my own content. I understand what you're saying though. I can't change how certain groups in our community feel, but I can respect their right to have their own opinions and feelings.

I will make a vow to optimize content more. Map size will be difficult when it's maps from other engines though. I do wish everyone the best no matter how I might react or become angry at something I disagree with. I will work on that as well. I've never been one to judge or hold grudges so for what it's worth... I sincerely wish everyone well.


 on: August 30, 2020, 07:27:23 am 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Troy
I'm sorry to say that an apology is not going to fix anything.  You continue to make the same mistakes with your maps, servers and spam people on chat about your new content.  There are people here that have tried to help you, you don't listen, and it just pisses us off.  After all these years, you still don't understand that the content that you make is poor.  I honestly think you want to help the community, it's the best you can do, but everyone else is just irritated because deep down, it sucks.  So, you either need to get better or just stop.  Now, if you're serious about improving things, this is what you need to do.

1.  Go back and read all the suggestions that people have made to you on this board.  Do what they say because they're right.

2.  Stop blaming people for things that you need to improve on.  (Uncompressed server maps, materials, ect).

3.  Start working with people that are better than you at hammer.  Do everything in your power to learn as much as you can.

4.  Streamline your work into one thread or steam group.  You could even do events as a way to get people to try your new content.  Stop spamming us on chat!

It's going to be a long road, but you can recover from this.  We are here to help you; but the change starts with you.

 on: August 29, 2020, 06:09:36 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Multiplayer_X_
I have been doing some heavy thinking and decided to explain why I do things the way I do. Now that I've had a chance to think things through I felt it was necessary to set the record straight about how I do things, create content, port maps, etc.

Honestly it was never my intention to get so deep into making maps and even starting a server at all. When 005 suggested to mess with hammer to make a dam island map that is where it all started. I may not understand why some people are so deeply moved to irritation because I don't follow the crowd, etc; I have been thinking that I can appreciate people even reserve that right to not like or be turned off by how another person does those things.

So in retrospect you can consider this an APOLOGY to the dev team, game testers, community, etc for anything said in or out of context that came off offensive, rude, or disrespectful. I will make a solid effort to stay open to suggestions however like I've expressed before it can be difficult to find time to fix things or optimize them. What I can do is offer to share project files, etc. I will do what I can when life or time allows it.

Sincerest regards and developmental ambitions,

 on: August 09, 2020, 02:01:35 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Entropy-Soldier
While the criticism in this thread wasn't presented in the most amicable way, it is something we've tried to tell you for a very long time and the simple fact is that you've never really listened to it when it was given in any other format.  Some people are now very frustrated about having to say these things for the 10th time.

You don't get much engagement from the team at this point simply because we've long since noticed that you don't really listen to anything we say and thus it's fairly pointless to respond to you.  You get belligerent over completely innocuous things, disregard all criticism, and overall the general perception is that interacting with you can only cause more trouble or at best would just be a waste of time. 

Many people on the team have more productive things to do than respond to your bizarre allegations, such as the idea we've somehow blocked your ability to upload forum avatars?  Like did you do any research to determine if our forum software even has that feature?  Regardless, I certainly don't run that kind of operation.  If we feel the need to take action against you, you will be given an official warning which will be followed by a ban.  This tends to be fairly rare in our community but it is a possibility.  If you're having an issue with something I advise you to first do some research and see if there's another explanation for the issue you're having, as that's almost certainly going to be more likely than intentional sabotage.

It's easy to think we hate you, MultiX, but the reality is that most people are just apathetic at this point.  There's a well established pattern here and few people have any real inclination to put on the same show and dance with you for the 50th time.  You are not owed responses and engagement from other people, if you want it you're going to have to give them a reason to engage with you.  When you refuse to listen to someone and just keep making demands of them, eventually they don't want to participate anymore.  It's that simple.  If you want a different result, the only thing you can change is yourself.

Unfortunately in this community I would say your reputation is so strong that it would be best to take these lessons and apply them to a new community.  You can still find something you can contribute to in a meaningful way, but it's very unlikely to be this project.  All the bridges have been burned a long time ago.  But that's life, all you can do is move on and try to do better the next time.

As for the beta testers on the GE:S team, they are oftentimes more than just testers.  There are many members of the testing team who have made significant content contributions to the official release, and many more produce their own custom content for the game.  The title only signifies official responsibilities, it is not directly tied to the magnitude of that person's contributions.

Anyway, I'm locking this thread as it's long since served its purpose.  I hope you take these words to heart, even if you don't personally agree with them I hope you recognize there is value in knowing how other people perceive you.  It's very possible this community just has a culture that doesn't mesh well with your own values.  This is something you should give a lot of thought to, along with the idea that there may be other communities you'd fit in better with.  I personally think you should still take a long look at how you can improve yourself and how you interact with others, but as with anything in life there are a lot of workable strategies. 

I hope this information is useful to you!

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