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 on: July 31, 2020, 03:30:07 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Helios
The biggest issue with CUSTOM MAPS is CONTENT. Everyone should know this.  ;)   It all sounds wonderful but when it comes to a map missing assets what you are suggesting is simply NOT POSSIBLE. Maps get packed with what they need and that is where the large map size comes from. Even if i put the files in separate resource files on the server it would STILL take a little while to download. ;)

No offense taken though. Most everyone I know that has at least 100MB per second internet generally only has to wait a minute or two. The server has FAST DOWNLOADER so if it's taking that long for you it's most likely your ISP or internet speed.  Multi

Dude, you're using 4k textures and uncompressed wav files when that literally isn't necessary at all.

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 on: July 17, 2020, 04:19:23 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by soupcan
Dude, no... Please, just take a few minutes/hours and learn how things are done. There is no excuse for the ridiculous file sizes. Just learn how to properly utilize assets and optimize maps. A little effort goes a long way in that respect.

Let's take your Duke 3D map for instance. The BSP alone is 320MB (I'm using base-10 here because that's what my file manager uses). Even BZ2-compressing it would give you a big improvement for free (you literally don't have to do anything else). That would cut the download size from 320MB down to 60MB instantly. But nonetheless, let's compare this file size to some other items.

Chateau DuClare, which is a fairly large map incorporating custom sounds, textures and models, is 66MB uncompressed. Your retro-themed, low-res map is almost 5x bigger than a modern map. Better yet, your one BSP alone is 25x bigger than the game it came from!

Now let's take a look at the files inside your BSP... You have several lengthy WAV files that may have been better-suited for other formats, or maybe even their quality cut down without audible loss, especially since the offending WAVs (the arcades ones) are a small detail and are barely audible. They account for a relatively small, but still considerable, amount of the BSP. Your sounds folder (again, only what's in the BSP, not including music) is 38MB.

/models is 6MB, not bad, but still, you included editor assets and the GE:S ammo crate, a rookie mistake that only happens if you "select all" in Pakrat.

/materials is where things get interesting. This folder is 270MB. You included tool textures here, again a rookie mistake, but that doesn't even register on the file size. The worst offenders are 4K textures for what are small surfaces in the map -- again, the arcade machines. Not only that, you have a few super-high-res, detailed textures, in a dimly lit area of the map where they go unnoticed. Not only that, but they're mixed in with super low-res arcade machines. If you kept it consistent with the retro aesthetic of the map, or even stayed conscious of how these assets are used and chose/adjusted them properly, you could have shrunk the size tremendously. The Pac-Man arcade has 2 textures of 22MB, one of which is solid black.

You also have multiple lengthy animated textures, that range from 20 to 72 MB. PER. TEXTURE. You could have gone with simpler, shorter animations or done away with it entirely, inflating your map size so much is not worth it for an easter egg.

And keep in mind, all these textures have to be loaded into memory. The engine has a memory budget, and abusing it like this is why some of your maps crash so often.

Not only that, but your map has TWELVE music tracks! And ALL OF THEM ARE UNCOMPRESSED WAVS! 20 - 70M EACH and add a combined 550 MEGABYTES to the map!

And that's before we even get into map optimization techniques. Properly sealing leaks, using nodraw on hidden surfaces, among other things, will help tremendously on file size, compile time and in-game performance, which has long been a problem on your maps. But it won't help with size as much as say, not using uncompressed WAVs at every opportunity.

If you learned how to properly optimize your maps, you would find everyone would download much faster, the performance would be better, and your problems would go away.

Like, sorry dude, but we've tried over and over again to try to help you course-correct but you just won't take the hint. Get better instead of deflecting criticism. Sheesh.

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 on: July 17, 2020, 02:59:42 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by namajnaG
All of my maps have no stock assets, except usually one or two light props and two or three textures on average (basic shit like concrete floors or ceilings). They are all under 100 megabytes, and usually half the filesize on those maps is taken by ridiculous easter eggs I put in.
Codex, without the easter eggs and 100% custom assets except two props, is 22MB.
Grid, which is arguably one of the best custom maps we've ever had, has 100% custom assets as well, and is under 100MB.
Duclare Chateau is 65MB.

There is truly no excuse to have 800MB for a DN3D map. Stop.

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 on: July 17, 2020, 12:12:55 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Multiplayer_X_
Over the past several months I have been creating multiple logos and wallpapers for gesource. There should be plenty of color variations for any taste. Enjoy!   ;)    MultiplayerX

http://multiplayerx.site.nfoservers.com/gesource/GESOURCE%20DESKTOP%20WALLPAPER.zip

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 on: July 17, 2020, 12:01:28 pm 
Started by Multiplayer_X_ - Last post by Multiplayer_X_
The biggest issue with CUSTOM MAPS is CONTENT. Everyone should know this.  ;)   It all sounds wonderful but when it comes to a map missing assets what you are suggesting is simply NOT POSSIBLE. Maps get packed with what they need and that is where the large map size comes from. Even if i put the files in separate resource files on the server it would STILL take a little while to download. ;)

No offense taken though. Most everyone I know that has at least 100MB per second internet generally only has to wait a minute or two. The server has FAST DOWNLOADER so if it's taking that long for you it's most likely your ISP or internet speed.  Multi

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 on: July 12, 2020, 10:15:47 am 
Started by Joe - Last post by Kujo
In case anyone else is looking for the 5.0 updated version of this game mode, darkdiplomat's fork seems to work.

https://github.com/darkdiplomat/GES_DieAnotherDay_Mode

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 on: May 23, 2020, 05:44:17 pm 
Started by Enzo.Matrix - Last post by CptLima
Yes, it would be cool to see an update soon - but keep in mind 5.0 is a ton of fun and has a regular following right *now*. I'm sure the time will come when a new version is released that tweaks the mod and gives us some cool new content, but we've already got a polished, very fun, still active mod right now - with hundreds of regulars playing all the time. Be pleasantly surprised and enjoy the ride whenever the next version is released, but for now, keep enjoying what we have! I know I do every week. !gesrocks

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 on: May 17, 2020, 12:20:04 pm 
Started by Enzo.Matrix - Last post by SuperFlyMenace
Three years and two days later...
Can't decide if we'll see this or GoldenEye 25 happen first! And I say this with all due respect as not only that I can't do what these guys do but much less really complain when it comes down to it because they do it for free! But for now, the wait continues!

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 on: April 16, 2020, 06:41:45 pm 
Started by Enzo.Matrix - Last post by JamieF4178
Now its been 3 years lol Damn, I can't wait to play Citadel!!!! ;D

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 on: April 08, 2020, 12:37:44 pm 
Started by TheArchitect - Last post by major
I've had some funky issues with old source engine versions with my new PC. While mine is AMD cpu and GPU, I had to turn on AMD chill to declock GPU while playing GE:S. When it was stock settings it was get weird lag and spikes. With Chill on it runs beautiful and uses zero resources.

No idea if Nvidia has similar feature, but might be worth a look. Need to dumb pc down for old simple engine.


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