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Debriefing => Questions, Help, & How To's => Topic started by: markpeterjameslegg on August 13, 2010, 10:12:20 am

Title: Level Designing
Post by: markpeterjameslegg on August 13, 2010, 10:12:20 am
I have 3 years experience in level design, but only for Doom 3 on GTK Radiant, how would I go about designing maps for Goldeneye Source? Also going by these pictures of some of my work, do you think I would have the skill required considering GTK Radiant is a very simple tool to use compared to most?
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: major on August 13, 2010, 10:29:12 am
Is this a application?

With zero source experience, sad to say matches your chances.



Also next time take two seconds and search:

http://wiki.goldeneyesource.net/index.php/Setting_Up_Hammer
http://wiki.goldeneyesource.net/index.php/Setting_Up_Hammer_(old)
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: killermonkey on August 13, 2010, 10:48:56 am
I thought I'd help by moving this topic to the appropriate section
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: markpeterjameslegg on August 13, 2010, 12:30:00 pm
Sorry mate, wasn't sure where to ask.

Also I had zero experience of Doom 3 once as well, but that didn't stop me, you shouldn't underestimate people.

I typed "Creating maps in Goldeneye Source" and various other keywords but had no luck finding anything to get me started.
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: mookie on August 13, 2010, 01:17:34 pm
More or less the same as any other Source game. This (http://www.interlopers.net/tutorials/General_Half-Life_2) might be a place to start.
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: kraid on August 13, 2010, 02:41:34 pm
Since you're allready familiar with a bsp engine, it won't be to hard to switch to source.
Just a matter of learning the interface and commands, the theoretical stuff e.g. level optimisation should be nearly the same.
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on August 13, 2010, 03:10:42 pm
Since you're allready familiar with a bsp engine, it won't be to hard to switch to source.

Thats what I was going to say.
Yea, you deffinately have a good grasp of what level designing is all about. Now you need to perfect it though. I would highly recommend sticking to one medium of mapping.
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: killermonkey on August 13, 2010, 08:04:45 pm
BSP used in Source =/= BSP used in DOOM 3

Doom 3 uses 100% real time lighting (no baking) and no PVS. This cuts the process down to just developing the BSP tree which is only 1 / 4 steps from the Source process and also a significant shift in work flow.

In hammer you spend most of your time positioning lighting and configuring exceptions instead of actually mapping.

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Also I had zero experience of Doom 3 once as well, but that didn't stop me, you shouldn't underestimate people.

No one is underestimating you, however you can't expect to be snatched up / taken too seriously when you have zero experience in something. At some point I didn't know how to program as well (be it I was not in high school yet) and clearly I have overcome that hurdle in my life (over the last 10 years) but its a continual process of self exploration, learning, and dealing with ass holes like me who do not give people the benefit of the doubt without proper justification.
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: Kratos on August 14, 2010, 12:43:36 am
but its a continual process of self exploration, learning, and dealing with ass holes like me who do not give people the benefit of the doubt without proper justification.

I am one of those assholes you dealt with in your life  :'(
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on August 14, 2010, 01:02:39 am
You both are assholes :x
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: markpeterjameslegg on August 14, 2010, 01:45:00 am
I had a go, created a little map with a couple of area's but truth is I am not really going to have time, I am currently working on a new original Quake game for Doom 3 which is where the screenshots came from, and as I am the only person working on this, I have got my work cut out. But thanks to all those who helped. I'll just stick with playing this super mod and leave the mapping to the pro's.

Oh... and I love your Bunker map Kraid, great work.
Title: Re: Level Designing
Post by: Kratos on August 14, 2010, 06:10:38 am
You both are assholes :x

lol!