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		Debriefing => Off-Topic Lounge => Topic started by: Kratos on May 07, 2009, 11:18:53 pm
		
			
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				UPDATE May 16th 2011
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 http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/16/duke-nukem-forever-demo-lands-june-3-for-borderlands-goty-owners/
 
 Im not paying $29 for borderlands just for that demo.. rather just wait till someone leaks or its downloadable on their website.
 
 "Always bet on Duke"
 
 
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				I'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL.
 
 Bidding starts at one cent.
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				a friend of mine said:
 
 "3drealms should release the Duke Nukem Forever source code and let the open source community finish it"
 
 This should happen. That will be cool.
 
 btw "It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, but I am all out of gum"
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				Saw this coming for a while. After not producing any greatly succesfull titles in the recent past, and the state of the economy, this was bound to happen sooner or later. Theres just no funding for alot of developers, so unless you are a big company alot of companies are shutting their doors.
			
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				http://news.bigdownload.com/photos/duke4-net-duke-nuke-forever-screenshots/2004182/
 
 Artist reveals levels of Duke Nukem Forever. How nice of him.
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				It was looking good so far. Shame they never got to finish it. Never played the first one, but heard it was a great game.
			
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				(http://www.blogcdn.com/news.bigdownload.com/media/2008/12/dnfdec17.jpg)
 
 Wow!  I really hope someone finishes this.
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				That game play video makes me REALLY wanna play that game now no matter what. Too bad they didn't release a public demo. 
			
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				Seems to me that everything is VERY scripted, much like COD 1,2, and 3.
 
 That makes me angry and also means AI is stupid.
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				I cannot imagine intelligent enemies in a Duke Nukem game.
 Seriously they're just cannonfooder on the Dukes way to the babes.
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				Words cannot express how much i want this game... even if every aspect of it is prescripted and the shadows look like they were drawn by a 2 year old xD
			
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				I cant freaking believe Duke is being developed! I love Duke.
			
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				It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum and I'm aaaaaaallll out of funding...
 
 Facts:
 Was almost finnished
 Didn't need an engine change -> code so efficient new shaders took max 1 week to implement
 George said: "Cutting is shipping" and posted a last minute bug-list
 3D Realms is still working (read pollishing) it with a lot less people
 3D Realms has money offshore
 3D Realms never lost a lawsuit and had a shitload of lawsuits
 
 Conclusion:
 Always bet on Duke :D
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				http://www.stickskills.com/news/844/duke-nukem-forever-footage-leaked/
 
 http://www.allgamesbeta.info/2010/04/leaked-footage-and-screens-of-dnf.html
 
 New Duke Nukem video and pics
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				fileplanet had and April Fools Duke Nukem Forever Demo download link.
			
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				I wonder if it is even possible that anyone in the future can keep a game in production longer than DNF without a release.
			
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				I wonder if it is even possible that anyone in the future can keep a game in production longer than DNF without a release.
 
 
 lol idk good question though
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				I'm just curriouse what was inside the download of the fake demo.
			
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				I'm just curriouse what was inside the download of the fake demo.
 
 
 i believe it was just old pics and a trailer of duke nukem forever.
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				Possible comeback...
 
 http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a259662/gearbox-reviving-duke-nukem-forever.html
 
 Lets hope
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				we only can hope and pray to god
			
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				would be nice to see a released version, I doubt it though  :-\
			
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				Yup, it has been delayed again
 
 The release date was changed from May 3 (May 6 for outside the U.S.) to June 14 for the States and June 10 (for the international release).
 
 http://kotaku.com/#!5785243/duke-nukem-forever-delayed
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				As long as I still get my Duke bust, i don't really care about the game.
			
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				I'm still convinced this game will never come out.
			
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				New trailer:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuuyRGB_BA
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				If they sell this game to 12-13 year old kids from the consoles, I fear the worse for today's generation.
 Still, That trailer was hella badass.
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				If they sell this game to 12-13 year old kids from the consoles, I fear the worse for today's generation. :D
 
 Still, That trailer was hella badass. The jokes are awesome  ;D
 The car parking from James Bond: The World Is Not Enough, Half-Life2 alien portal, Prey's living doors, GoldenEye64 (spot the golden deagle xD)... This game is full of awesome 8)
 
 EDIT: Oh yeah, not to mention Prodigy - Invaders Must Die ^^,
 
 The only thing they removed was the Joke about Blu-Ray discs when people thought that Sony was in for another proprietary format fail. "Blu-Ray discs. That's right; Blu-Ray. It's the true future of high definition, and you know it!"
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				Go get borderlands GOTY if you want first access to Duke Nukem Forever demo.
			
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				Borderlands was horrible in my opinion. I'll wait until the final release.
			
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				There'll be a release? We're talking about Duke Nukem Forever, right?
			
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				There'll be a release? We're talking about Duke Nukem Forever, right?
 
 
 Yeah...
 Good point. Heheh.
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				what score will it get?
 
 Judging by the multiplayer support, big guns, girls, etc.. prob 9.0/10?
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				"After twelve fucking years it should be..." 10 out of 10.
			
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				"After twelve fucking years it should be..." 10 out of 10.
 
 
 ^ lol. Fuck yea it better be 10/10!
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				^ lol. Fuck yea it better be 10/10!
 
 
 If Black Ops can get a 9/10, This should easily score a 15/10.
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				cod games buy ratings.
			
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				That would make a lot of sense, But is there any sources to prove what you are saying here?
 (Not that I do not believe you, But to be 100% aware of the truth.)
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				Obviously no published information, but i will let you decide:
 
 http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-duty-black-ops
 
 Note the disparity between the user reviews and the industry reviews.
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				Well, I would take user reviews with as much of a pinch of salt as industry reviews, just for different reasons.
 
 Not that I'm in any way defending publishers like EA and Activision who have boundless funds for paying off reviewers as a default marketing strategy... You know, if they wanted to.
 
 User reviews are rarely objective. You get people who are touchy about validating their purchase and so they automatically rate something 10/10, you also get bandwagon reviews that latch onto a particular criticism and underrate a game based on some single problem that may even be trivial. Fact is in any given field 90% of people don't know what they're talking about, they just want their opinions heard.
 
 The problem is these are two opposite ends of the spectrum. Professional media company reviews or end user reviews. I find that the most reliable source of genuine objectivity is from alternative media, somewhere between those two. You should ignore GT and IGN, all of that crap. If you want a real review you want to look at alternative reviewers who are self employed or do it as a hobby, too small-time to be payed off but knowledgable and objective enough to be fair and honest about things. Check out Classic Game Room (http://cgrempire.com/), I follow pretty much all of their stuff on Youtube, their reviews are awesome and funny, but most importantly they ring true about what the qualities and flaws are in the games.
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				Obviously no published information, but i will let you decide:
 
 http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-duty-black-ops
 
 Note the disparity between the user reviews and the industry reviews.
 
 
 Yeah, I have reviewed it on that website along with a friend, Both zero's. Actually my friend gave it a 1/10, The 1 being the fun he had bashing the game and its poor dev's.
 
 The problem is these are two opposite ends of the spectrum. Professional media company reviews or end user reviews. I find that the most reliable source of genuine objectivity is from alternative media, somewhere between those two. You should ignore GT and IGN, all of that crap. If you want a real review you want to look at alternative reviewers who are self employed or do it as a hobby, too small-time to be payed off but knowledgable and objective enough to be fair and honest about things. Check out Classic Game Room (http://cgrempire.com/), I follow pretty much all of their stuff on Youtube, their reviews are awesome and funny, but most importantly they ring true about what the qualities and flaws are in the games.
 
 
 I sure am going to follow this website from now on. I check out PCGamer once in a while, Some reviewers are all right, But some others I think are just plain too terrible.
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 EDIT : Back on topic, Here's the new launch trailer.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZahQltQK5xQ
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				I've played the demo for the game via the First Access Club. It feels incredible to play a game that took 12-13 years to finally be released. So much history, so many jokes and seemingly false hopes all leading up to this one date. Overall, the game feels and plays solid in my opinion. I really admire Gearbox for picking this up and keeping Duke... well Duke. The one liners, the badassery.
 
 Anyway, that's enough rambling on from me.
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				I see the commercials for this game now on TV all the time. only took 10 years haha