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Debriefing => Off-Topic Lounge => Topic started by: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on September 03, 2008, 09:31:57 pm
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Google released their own browser. As much as I love Firefox, Chrome takes up half as many resources and is way faster, though it doesn't yet seem to have addons. Give it a looksie
http://www.google.com/chrome
Speed Test
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10030888-92.html?part=rss
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i have my doubts, but ill try it
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its crap, stickin to firefox for now, this browser seems far to new and seems to lack the most basic features, id give it at least 6 months before it proves worth using
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I am switching to chrome just because it loads everything a lot faster and takes up less resources. It does have some neat features though. Sadly I am probabily leaving firefox behind :( unless chrome decides to turn rogue and crash my pc haha.
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Yea, its missing far too many features to replace firefox for me. I didn't really notice any speed improvements either, definitely nothing that was enough to leave firefox. It's open source though, and google has said they they encourage any other browsers to take any parts of it they want, so hopefully firefox will incorporate anything that chrome does better.
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The only thing I really miss from Firefox is adblock and gestures. Also better scrolling.
Otherwise holy fuck, before I got cold feet and returned to Firefox, but this is awesome and I'm using it again.
Anyone who thinks this is shitty deserves to be dragged out and shot/fed to /g/.
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I hate having to choose between speed and function. I still have a single core 2ghz cpu, so ff takes a good slice of pie
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I develop web applications and have been testing chrome on the sites I manage. I notice that the JavaScript part runs notably faster than Firefox and Safari (chrome's closest relative), then goes for circles around IE6 and IE7. However I think safari will do the initial loading of the page faster, and chrome has an issue right now (I tested on external sites to verify it wasn't just our work) where it will periodically do incomplete loads (hitting refresh will completely load the page), but this will probably be one of the first issues addressed.
The main area that it has benefits is if the pages have heavy JavaScript/AJAX usage, especially if you are running many tabs and as the number of cores you have in your computer increases. Features I like is pulling tabs off and they become their own window (granted already on safari). Followed closely native support for pages to load once then practically be an application on the desktop.
The release of Firefox 3, Safari 4, IE8 and Chrome has me optimistic the coming year will be the best for cross platform development. If only IE8 after it's release could take the majority of IE's market share away from IE6 and IE7 quickly it would make my year. IE6 can burn in hell, hopefully IE7 will just have a quick quiet death. These would cut out 70% of the testing and debugging I do.
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If only IE8 after it's release could take the majority of IE's market share away from IE6 and IE7 quickly it would make my year. IE6 can burn in hell, hopefully IE7 will just have a quick quiet death. These would cut out 70% of the testing and debugging I do.
QFT!!!
As a user, chrone can be something to give a try. Won't use it, I'm way too addicted to adblock. But as a developer, it's yet another browser to test, and debug. If you still want your JS to be IE6 compliant (because your client wants so), its a pain in the ass... IE6, IE7, IE8, FF3, Chrome, Safari, Opera. Duh :(
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Bah... i heard about chrome but... Nah... not now. I'm still using this little red fox ^_^ !!!
... firefox...
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enjoy ur yaff
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Few things I dont like about chrome. Firefox I would middle mouse click the back button to open the previous window in a new tab, don't work like that in chrome. Another thing is when i click the middle button down it doesn't give me the scrolling option in chrome. Other than those it's fairly nice it is still new and kinda of bland but we will have to see what will come in the future.
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Found another thing I can not stand about chrome. Pictures that are hotlinked or something that i open in a new tab it just downloads them and doesn't let me view them in the browser.
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Few things I dont like about chrome. Firefox I would middle mouse click the back button to open the previous window in a new tab, don't work like that in chrome. Another thing is when i click the middle button down it doesn't give me the scrolling option in chrome. Other than those it's fairly nice it is still new and kinda of bland but we will have to see what will come in the future.
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Found another thing I can not stand about chrome. Pictures that are hotlinked or something that i open in a new tab it just downloads them and doesn't let me view them in the browser.
Those are the exact features I use a lot, and I don't use a lot big features on browsers but those little things I like. Heck I'm writeing this laying in bed on my iPod so I use a lot browsers but I think I might have to pass on this for a while.
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Yep, I am back to good old firefox I got annoyed and uninstalled chrome. Better luck next time haha.
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the data center computation is starting to bug me. it hiccups like a bastard
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Right now chrome being in beta really means it, six months to a year would be the earliest I will probably consider it for personal use; hopefully this wont be a perpetual beta cycle like a lot of Google products. Gmail probably qualifies to be a version two or three, not in the fourth year of vague beta period.
The benchmarks for JavaScript speed look nice though; http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10030888-92.html?part=rss
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20080902/chrome_subbenchmark_png.PNG)
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Yep, I am back to good old firefox I got annoyed and uninstalled chrome. Better luck next time haha.
Next time being their next beta in I think three weeks or something.
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aaaand I'm back to firefox hahaha
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Yeah I nearly went back to Firefox too because it just felt cozy, and I had the superfluous bells and whistles that made it fun (ads aren't a problem when a browser's so goddamn fast).
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Firefox + Adblock Plus = love
I have no reason to try chrome as I am extremely happy with the FF
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Firefox + Adblock Plus = love
amen.
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chrome = least secure browser ever.
type :% in the address bar.
Also, if there's code to open a 0x0 px window, with a viral exe in it, chrome opens said invisible window and downloads (and then executes) the file without prompting the user. Security = fail.
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Chrome is a secure browser, minus a couple flaws.
In the latest version, :% is fixed (make sure you update).
EXE Files now warn you before they download, as well as the fact that it was a buffer stack overflow. It required the user to try and save the webpage itself. It had to do with excessively long website titles.
Not only that, Chrome Virtualizes every webpage, so damage control is apparent.
I love Chrome - It easily replaced FireFox. I really don't care about the flashy addons - they only slow down the browser. FireFox may be fast compared to what it was, but it doesn't stand a chance against Chrome. Not only that, Chrome has far better memory management. I love the feature of being able to drag a tab off of the browser, into a window of it's own - and I especially love to be able to do that with flash content playing, and not have that content interrupted. It's wonderful for watching something and browsing the web without having to relaunch the process.
Task manager is win. Content heavy sites (such as Digg) were crashing FireFox, too - so it was no problem for me to leave it. Chrome came at a convenient, and has certainly won my heart.
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ooh, an update. *downloads*
Well, that fixes the few issues i had with it, so that's cool. but i have a number of really important addons for firefox i can't get in any other browser, so FF is still my main browser for now. Thanks for the heads up about the update though =)
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Replacing Firefox sounds like an almost impossible thing to pull off.
Then again, it is Google. ::)
I'll give it a whirl eventually, but I'd probably give it some time to get some more things going for itself.
I love the feature of being able to drag a tab off of the browser, into a window of it's own - and I especially love to be able to do that with flash content playing, and not have that content interrupted. It's wonderful for watching something and browsing the web without having to relaunch the process.
FireFox does that as well.
I have FireFox 3.
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I would expect that chrome is more likely to get people out of IE, since one of it's advantages over Firefox and Safari is that people who would not consider them (probably not hearing of them) might consider google's. Since they advertised the beta on their homepage, If they start doing version releases they might announce that too.
But good news for everyone on speed, the latest builds of webkit (code that will eventually end up in safari) and firefox all look like dramatic improvements, poor IE8 sill looks like no improvement in speed over version 7.
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i still think its crap compared to firefox
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IE lacks too many thing of Firefox.
IE will never be as good as Firefox.
IE is obsolete to Firefox.
IE < Firefox!
I don't understand what people don't get about this!
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the only advantages I am aware of.
IE is their on every windows box
~70% market-share (Progressively loosing this one)
Active Directory Integration for enterprise intranets
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IE lacks too many thing of Firefox.
IE will never be as good as Firefox.
IE is obsolete to Firefox.
IE < Firefox!
I don't understand what people don't get about this!
We're talking about Google Chrome (http://www.google.com/chrome), not Internet Explorer.
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IE lacks too many thing of Firefox.
IE will never be as good as Firefox.
IE is obsolete to Firefox.
IE < Firefox!
I don't understand what people don't get about this!
IE =/= Google Chrome.
:/
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(http://tomaskral.cz/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/antiexplorer.jpg)
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I need a poster of that for my desk.
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If chrome had a dedicated button for bookmarks I would probably use it more then Firefox. I really like its clean interface now I've used for a while.... I can see it being really good if it gets some small quirks fix, like bookmarks and middle mouse button scrolling :(
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...Why did I bring IE up?
Seriously. Could have sworn someone was defending IE at some point...
Well anyway, I'm using Chrome right now.
I have to say that so far it is ludicrously fast. I don't know. The speed on its own might just be worth losing the add-ons that Firefox has to offer.
I'll need some more time with Chrome. Given a year or so, I'm putting my money on Chrome having something very good going for it.
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...Ah. I was responding to a post belonging to another forum. Real nice.
*is idiot*
Sure I made myself look like one...
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/file/30674/statusbarex-0.2.17-fx-win.xpi
(Firefox Plugin that gives you info on the amount of memory Firefox is using)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/file/20783/ramback-1.0-fx.xpi
(Firefox Plugin that frees up memory from time to time)
FTW.
I hadn't tried Chrome yet.... and probably won't until at least mid 2009. Giving it plenty of time to become as solid as possible.
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Sundar Pichai, Google vice president, stated that the browser will exit beta in January. Google, meanwhile, is exploring its distribution options and examining the various ways it might improve its market share. "We will probably do distribution deals,†Pinchai told The Times. "We could work with an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) and have them ship computers with Chrome preinstalled." ...
... search giant intends to back Chrome with all of the massive resources at its disposal. "We will throw our weight behind it," said Pichai. "We’ve been conservative because it's still in beta, but once we get it out of beta we will work hard at getting the word out, promoting to users, and marketing will be a part of that."
... Microsoft has never had to compete for browser share against a company as large and powerful as itself. Once Chrome launches, that's going to change; Google has the money and the expertise to match Microsoft dollar-for-dollar and feature-for-feature.
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ok i do not think google is as big a company as microsoft, but more expert in a browser, yes im assured they will be.
Still i like using opera and safari, actually i use most browsers.
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^Same. I have IE7, Opera 9.5+, Safari, Firefox and Chrome installed here. I should probably get rid of Safari and Opera, but I like having a lot of backup.
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Well, I'm still using Chrome. I'm liking it so far, just for its speed.
Sure it's missing a few things... but it's just fast so that fact doesn't bother me. Give the browser some time.
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Chrome is out of beta. I suspect the timing may have coincided with the recent IE7 exploit being published this week. Since some say that a patch would not be available for about a month (Though there is no way to tell, it could be tomorrow or months away). It would be a good time have it on the market, now is it ready that is another question.
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I wish GES was out of Beta...
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me too, slacker programmers :P
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I'm sure they have their reasons.