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Debriefing => General Goldeneye => Topic started by: HK on September 28, 2007, 10:06:03 pm
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hi all
one thing thats been pissing me off is steam
a week or so ago i could see GE;S servers on the desktop in the server menu i thought cool about time but since then i keeps going back to only CSS and HL2 DM (i dont have it installed i dont see why it showns up?
i only have CSS and GES for mp
if someone says xfire well i have that already and its no good for me
the other thing thats been bothering me now when i play is these WN players and a few others usally they have a ping over 100-150 and am normally under 40-60
its like they have a laggy bubble around them as soon as i get close to them "its like no chance in hell " ,it afects my mouse and control of my player more my aiming its like it gets stuck
it happens ONLY WHEN THERE ON
the things that they would do are throwing mines like there nades which is unfair but they do it anyway
they are the only ones doing this (there server too)
take a lot more damage than normal to die (i know armor ) or just crazy avoiding - bs jumping higher than normal and when they die sometimes there body would shoot up -just die ffs
its annoying like hell
they might get a few kills on me(with that throwing nades/zmg bs but i come back just put them down) but soon as i start getting on a killing spree it will be me that starts to get more kills in and win 8)
i does any know any more about the next release ::)
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They might be rate jacking. As far as the GES crew goes, there are a few good guys on WNx, but many of them make stooges of themselves with boorish and disrespectful behavior toward other players and other clans.
They banned me for "hacking" a couple times, then they asked me to join. That says something.
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rate jacking ???
what did u do for them to say ur hacking ???
i think there French
anyone having the same problem with steam on desktop i can`t select GES in filters in servers >:(
desktop-steam-servers only css and hl2dm - weird it worked fine the other day
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Rate jacking is setting your data rates to make it look like you lag, jerk around, and become harder to hit consistently. It's lame and annoying.
I kept beating up noobies on their server with throwing knives. Noobies complained that I was hacking because I would stick them through slightly opened doors or throw a knife down a hall and then watch them walk into it.
Silo20 (spelling?) is French, I don't know if any others are. He seemed pretty cool. We chatted a few times when the server was dead.
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Wnx are fine in my view
its Sil20 and hes monster to play on 400 ping, most the WN are hard for me to verse.
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the other thing thats been bothering me now when i play is these WN players and a few others usally they have a ping over 100-150 and am normally under 40-60
its like they have a laggy bubble around them as soon as i get close to them "its like no chance in hell " ,it afects my mouse and control of my player more my aiming its like it gets stuck
it happens ONLY WHEN THERE ON
the things that they would do are throwing mines like there nades which is unfair but they do it anyway
they are the only ones doing this (there server too)
take a lot more damage than normal to die (i know armor ) or just crazy avoiding - bs jumping higher than normal and when they die sometimes there body would shoot up -just die ffs
its annoying like hell
they might get a few kills on me(with that throwing nades/zmg bs but i come back just put them down) but soon as i start getting on a killing spree it will be me that starts to get more kills in and win 8)
i does any know any more about the next release ::)
Okay. First of all, the rates have nothing to do with my (and other people's) higher ping. Our official EU server (the one that I've seen you most on) has default rates set, as far as I know. I am from the US, and this was on a EU server, so of course I'm going to have a higher ping than you. Sorry, but there isn't anything I can do about it besides play on a US server. I don't always have this luxury, since there is usually only one server with people on it at a time, given that the game has a fairly small number of players.
Second, I don't see how throwing mines like 'nades is unfair. This trick was present in the original Goldeneye, too. Yes, mines are deadly when thrown in this fashion, but it requires a good deal of skill to do so properly. You have to have perfect timing to get a kill. If you blow them up too early, you risk killing yourself (and believe me, this has happened to me plenty of times). Too late, and the mine will have flown past your opponent. It's especially hard to use remote mines in wide open areas, as well. Additionally, it's all too easy to accidently switch to the watch while doing this trick. If this happens, you're a sitting duck. It's not like proxy mines, where you can just set them and get a cheap kill without having to do anything other than remembering where you placed them.
Now, the extra-high jumping. This is easy to do actually, you simply have to crouch before you jump. I have to admit, I think this is kind of weird too, it very well may be a glitch. If so, perhaps it will be for the better if it is fixed in the next beta.
And "taking a lot more damage than normal to die"... this happens to me too, and to everyone else that plays the game. The hit register in the beta is very glitchy, so shots will often not register (this is particularly a problem with LTK enabled). I will admit, the problem seems to be greater when players with high ping are present, but it is still an issue even if everyone has low latency. Again, there is nothing that can be done about this until it is fixed.
Concerning Steam... yeah, that does seem a bit weird. I checked, and it works fine for me. Often uninstalling and reinstalling the game fixes these kind of problems, no idea if it will in this case. If you decide to try this, be sure to back up all of your maps, as it's a real pain to have to download all of the custom maps again.
EDIT: Now I have the same problem with the server filter. It seems to like to show only 2 games at a time, for whatever reason. Before it was showing CSS and GE:S, now it's showing CSS and Garry's Mod. Yet another reason why I don't like Steam :(
ANOTHER EDIT: Another thing I will admit is that players do spawn with mines too often on B@d's server. I'll talk to him and see if the frequency of spawning with mines can be turned down.
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Well I myself was on the server at this time aswell as a few others and I have to say that I do not see how this is unfair. How can some one complain about another player's ping if hes NA. We can't help if we have a ping over 100. And I don't see how the mine trick is unfair just cause most people don't know how to do it. It takes a lot of skill as Mark said. I can't really help you with steam, but I do think that you should not just flame us for winning and doing fancy tricks. If you don't like us, leave the server and play with other people. Thats all I have to say on the matter.
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Haha, you are funny HK. It seems like you doubt anyone who is better then you.
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Didn't really pay too much attention to this earlier, but rereading HK's second post I noticed this comment...
i think there French
What does this have to do with anything? I don't see what this has to do with anything else you have posted. If you must know, yes, there are a few people from France in our section, and at least one of them is very unhappy with you for making that comment.
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Exactly^^ It doesn't matter where you are from or what your nationality is. The point is that you are basically flaming WN players for playing better than you. I really don't see what the point of this topic is.
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LoL I love the bitching. GES is glitchy as hell get used to it. You get owned ? get used to it, even with a fix im sure that fact will stay the same. HK i've seen you in game from time to time and all you do is complain, maybe you should just chill and wait for a stable release to come out. I bet you a cookie and 2 apples you still complain though ;)
Viashino you got cable yet ? I do miss those old times.
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Viashino Cutthroat---
"Rate jacking is setting your data rates to make it look like you lag, jerk around, and become harder to hit consistently. It's lame and annoying.
I kept beating up noobies on their server with throwing knives. Noobies complained that I was hacking because I would stick them through slightly opened doors or throw a knife down a hall and then watch them walk into it.
Silo20 (spelling?) is French, I don't know if any others are. He seemed pretty cool. We chatted a few times when the server was dead.""
this rate jacking sounds really dirty if that is what it is
sounds like u had fun with the knife n1 ;D
( Sil20 ) i don't think i`ve seen him before
Wake[of]theBunT--- "Wnx are fine in my view
its Sil20 and hes monster to play on 400 ping, most the WN are hard for me to verse."
did u have 400 ping or him ethier way that would have sucked :o
: WNxVirtualMark------ about servers and rates--
rates have nothing to do with it??
does GES work differently than other value mp games ??
so ur from usa and u join a eu server with a laggy 100 -150 ping i would`nt play with that ping well i have i few times and it wasn't fun
well when i refresh servers theres around 10 most of them above 100
theres more servers i would think open to u with better ping than me ?
so am limited to playing on WN servers cause its stable and i get a good ping under 40-60
throwing mines like nades
- well of couse its unfair if everyone can do it then its not a problem
but it is the most annoying thing ever ---
just yesterday someone was doing it,
he just runs up to ppl and does "mine trick" that only a few know
,then he sees me,
i just unload usually a few respawns before he dies
the extra-high jumping - i can do it but its annoying to do and keep doing
i`ll leave steam - might try later thanks
L?ggy------
"""Haha, you are funny HK. It seems like you doubt anyone who is better then you."""
u always saying something stupid >:(
am asking for ppl experience playing WN players
WNxVirtualMark---------------
when i said ---""" i think there french""
i only said that for some more info about the players not any racist or bad meaning by saying it
WNxBIGBIRD---------------
"""How can some one complain about another player's ping if hes NA.""
NA - meaning low?
all u WN players are 100-150+-- i saw one with 40-50 but come on laggy/high ping players have a advantage over low pingers cause there like flying!!
mine trick - if only a few know then its unfair and even if it takes skill its unfair
play fair ffs
flaming for winning and fancy tricks
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omg where do i start
am not flaming
am only asking other ppl experience with playing with WN players
for me i join with a good ping
i get lag
,my mouse gets stuck when try to aim at WN players
and jumping or moving is messed up
about servers ------------
WN/DR,NO server is the only good server all the rest for me are just unstable or too high a ping for me to join if its under 100 ill check it out
i think icovered everything now back to topic
what are ur experience specifically new players they are the ones that will get a bad experience rom this i would think
:) :) :)
UnKnown-Pain--------------
u say its glitchy but it wasn't this bad
what name u used?
i don't get owned i pwn them ALL --laggers included 8) 8)
i messed up the quotes ( i know ) ill keep it short next time
Fixed by the one and only .... LODLE :D
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As far as I know, Pain doesn't smurf. (I do. I got tired of people whining when I'd join servers. Plus it keeps the people in my fan club on their toes. :D)
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As far as I know, Pain doesn't smurf. (I do. I got tired of people whining when I'd join servers. Plus it keeps the people in my fan club on their toes. :D)
"" smurf "" ???
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Play under a new made-up name so people don't know who you are. It's a way to escape one's fame or infamy for a short period of time.
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Doesn't work so well when people start noticing you're doing better than the average GEPlayer and check your Steam ID though.
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Aye, very true. I sometimes go under the name pistol only but the few people who play know thats me anyway.
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HK, the quote tags are there for a reason, I couldn't read that mess of a post.
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HK, the quote tags are there for a reason, I couldn't read that mess of a post.
i know it sucked looking back now but as i was typing more posts were made and it got longer am sorry if its messy am new and s**t at this
there was a lot of post i wanted to answer but i was using tabs so tags (qu0te button) wouldn't have worked sorry- i did try
ill try to keep it short
i edited the long post
mesed up the quotes but should help
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HK, I'm fed up of you laying into our members - in the server it is annoying, but to now do it on the official forums? What is the point?
OK, so when a new player accuses of hacking, fine, they don't know any better. But you, you're not a bad player, but why accuse people of hacking just because they are better than you? Just accept that you're not going to dominate the server and play, as the members who run the servers are fed up of you givng WNx a bad name, as am I. The amount of times you'v accused me at hacking, which I find laughable, as I'm not near as good as some other people out there.
As for lag issues - we have members from all ovr the world! Of course some will have worse ping than others. I have to say, when last I played, we all had pings >40. I rarely venture into NA servers for that reason. But when our NA members play on our EU server, of course they will have a bt of lag. It is not rate hacking, and VC, I'm surprised at you for adding fuel to the fire by suggesting this.
None of our members hack. When WN members of any game are found to hack, they are banned immediately. We have highly skilled members who have come to me saying they don't want to play the game anymore because of the constant accusations. So please, once and for all, let it rest!
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lodle's Ban Bot
noob: OMG wnx player (laggy) is hacking
Noob has been banned from this server
Every one wins :D
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i think there French
That explains it all. ;D
anyone having the same problem with steam on desktop i can`t select GES in filters in servers >:(
desktop-steam-servers only css and hl2dm - weird it worked fine the other day
Yeah I had that problem, it seemed like it started when I changed my Steam skin, but then I noticed the other day (after not doing anything to fix it) all my games showed up as normal.
Might I ask where you're from, HK?
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He's Scottish and he said thats why he swears so much at us, pretty lame if you ask me. He said its normal for the Scotts to do that :/
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(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6290/195fba21dfa6ae7c39b0479rj2.jpg)
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What the hell is that? lol
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He's Scottish and he said thats why he swears so much at us, pretty lame if you ask me. He said its normal for the Scotts to do that :/
swearing is in my blood / soul
i played the n64 one when it came out
so when this came out i played really good
but now its a joke -its hard to explain
to WNxCJL9788
am not as someone else said "flaming"or "laying" into ur clan
am simply asking other players experiences playing with WN players/others
cause for me its bad in so many ways am sorry if anybody is upset / annoyed about this but i need to know if something is wrong with my version or are other ppl having the same problems
i said this before----me saying "i think there French " i just said it to put more info out (forgot u all use the forum ) not meaning racist or any bad meaning
Xanatos------- about the pic - what fk is that ???
WNxBIGBIRD------------- yeah i know stupid pic
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thats me lol
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You are not Matt Lesko.
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don't tase me bro
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I am surprised with the opposition to throwing remote mines. Throwing mines and AR33 was my favorite weapon pair in multiplayer. Actually now that I think about it, I remember several people not liking that on the n64 too though.
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yeah but 10 remote mines usually killed someone on the n64.
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The problem with UFO! in GES right now is the fact that your toss range is/was really far, too fast-moving, and you didn't suffer any drawback like having a huge fireball rolling at you and blocking your vision, and your ability to throw a second mine. You can toss-pop all day in Beta 1 and it sucks nuggets.
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I have not played the source version yet, I have just been following the progress for a few months and should be replacing my graphically chalenged system by december.
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Cyan, there's a difference between remote mines & throwing mines, and only one should be used as throwing mines (the throwing mines, I'd say)... Having said that, might as well go on... So I think it should be "fixed" so this little "trick" isn't quite the same, yeah I can do it but it's a pain in the ass. I think the mines should be able to be set off quickly (about as soon as they hit the target 10ft away) but not as soon as it leaves your hand, that's a little silly.
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Thats what you could do on the N64, the only difference is no fireball to halt your progress. Hopefully someone is working on creating this fireball effect for explosions .... Maybe im asking for to much .... Yes, i think i am.
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Rolling explosions are on the to-do list.
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I don't even know what ya'll are talking about now... It's been years since I've played GE64 :'(
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Rolling explosions were good. Don't think it would even be hard as there are many custom explosion effects for CS.
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I got accused of aimbot and health-hack today.
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I got accused of aimbot and health-hack today.
I was accused of having the most fuckable ass by one of the chicks I hang out with...
I don't know if that's good, bad, or just plain sad..
What the fuck am I doing here?