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Debriefing => Off-Topic Lounge => Topic started by: oboe on September 03, 2007, 12:50:56 am
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Get yourself a halo toy with every kids meal purchase.
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Kids don't need masterchief toys, why the hell would an 8 year old kid be playing the game anyway?
Alright, because their parents suck ass, but it doesn't mean Microsoft should be marketing M rated material to minors. This is bullshit and I hope they die for it.
I'm all for the world recognizing video games as a form of art, like movies, books, and songs, but marketing your product as if it was a childrens movie is just outrageous.
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Holy shit, Halo 3 is rated Mature? The last time I played halo, which I think was the first one, it seemed like a teen game at best. The aliens made stupid funny noises, there was very little gore. It just seemed like a cartoony, action-based fps. What the hell could they possibly have put in Halo 3 to make it an M rating? Then again Perfect Dark was rated M... for... basically no reason at all.
Seriously, Weclock. Do you really care if some 9 year old plays Halo 3? How about we think about more important issues for now, like making sure children get a meal to eat first, and not at Burger King. Hell, I think fast food and obesity is a bigger problem for kids, than say Halo 3 toys. ;)
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Heh, you hope they die for putting a halo picture on a cup of soda? Hypocritical much? Maybe there is some truth about the effect of violent games on unstable people after all.
Heh, I realise you are baiting us with these topics, but they are so ridiculous I can't help myself.
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ZOMG MASTER CHIEF TOYS WORLD IS ENDINGZORZ!
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7-11 and burger king, lol
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but isn't halo a kid game anyway?
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Halo is rated M for mature. You're supposed to be 17 years old or older to purchase the game. They're treating it like it was a kids movie. And I'm not baiting anyone, I really feel this way.
They're miserable sacks of shit. 8 year old kids don't need to know who master chief is.
They've extended their whoring of Halo into banks now.
http://news.filefront.com/hi-im-master-chief-and-i-want-to-talk-to-you-about-your-finances/
When will it end? This is just retarded.
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Oh god, it's becoming a corporate fad!
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Halo is becoming the new Pokemon. I can't wait for the Halo 3 trading card game. Also, Halo 3 pogs with a golden master chief slammer.
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Halo is becoming the new Pokemon. I can't wait for the Halo 3 trading card game. Also, Halo 3 pogs with a golden master chief slammer.
Give it time...
People will start to realize how repetitive it is and give up on it... Just like Pokemon.
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I want a master chief stuffed animal toy so i can give it to my 4 year old cousin to sleep with.
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It wouldn't really be a stuffed "animal" then, would it :P
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Master chief creates much carnage. He is an animal.
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Master chief is rated E for everyone,
Honestly halo is a great game but its nothing to have this big of an ad campaign for, the people who think halo is the best game ever drive me crazy sure its a great game but its not good enough to be obsessed over
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Halo is rated M for mature. You're supposed to be 17 years old or older to purchase the game. They're treating it like it was a kids movie. And I'm not baiting anyone, I really feel this way.
They're miserable sacks of shit. 8 year old kids don't need to know who master chief is.
They've extended their whoring of Halo into banks now.
http://news.filefront.com/hi-im-master-chief-and-i-want-to-talk-to-you-about-your-finances/
When will it end? This is just retarded.
The ESRB is overzealous with their ratings. Gaming is a sensitive industry, so a lot of the ratings are bullshit. Halo is a e-T game. There is little blood. A child wouldn't mind. Children play with action figures, and that has fighting. If Halo was a movie, it would be rated PG 13. A T rated game that is rated just for violence won't really affect kids. I played GTA at 11, and I barely curse, and am very nonviolent. I also happened to have good parents. That is what makes kids turn out good. Not overprotective, conservative parenting, good parenting.
It's as if suddenly, when people have kids, they shift to a more authoritarian point of view. They are so afraid of their kids being messed up, they adopt odd morals. Halo is marginally more violent than Metroid anyway. I know you're trying your best to raise your kids, but halo is not bad as long as you leave out xbox live. I could have played when I was 6-8, and not have thought anything. It wouldn't change me. I see games like GTA being bad for children, but not Halo or Half Life.
As for the market whoring, that's just capitalism. Not that bad actually, I don't see how a drink having HALO on the box makes a difference.
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What the hell could they possibly have put in Halo 3 to make it an M rating? Then again Perfect Dark was rated M... for... basically no reason at all.
Perfect Dark was rated M because you shot AMERICANS who are REAL PEOPLE.
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Perfect Dark was rated M because you shot AMERICANS who are REAL PEOPLE.
YEE HAW GOD BLESS AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But seriously, what the fuck is the big deal about this? Don't you think that the parent lets the child out in public, or lets them watch tv? Cuz unless they don't, there is no fucking way in hell that this is the kid's first encounter with Master Chief. He's EVERY-FUCKING-WHERE. And if the kid can't even SEE an advertisement for an M rated game, are we going to have to pull R rated movie ads off the TV? Will game stores only be allowed to put up displays for games that are rated T or under? Are we going to have to change the things we show in public to shield our children from the real world? I think not.
And I've never seen a Halo toy/cup anything an BK. Maybe I missed it. I went in today and there was a bunch of football shit in the display case.
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as far as im concerned ive seen Grand theft auto shit on TV/ movie, that should deffinately be M
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it's coming. don't worry about it.
Also, I told you I think Microsoft is fucked up because of how they're fucking spamming halo every god damn place.
may they all be tortured in hell.
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it's coming. don't worry about it.
Also, I told you I think Microsoft is fucked up because of how they're fucking spamming halo every god damn place.
may they all be tortured in hell.
It's statements like these that make it hard for me to take overtly religious people seriously. Spouting off about protecting the children from violent images in one sentence, but in the next sentence advocating torturing people who don't agree with you. Fortunately the 1st amendment protects against both of your points.
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I'm not overtly religious, I'm agnostic.
I just like to vocalize my hate. And Hate I have much of.
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i wish the first amendment protected tits
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i wish the first amendment protected tits
+1
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I'm disgusted by little kids. It offends me. Does that mean I should make all the parents change their lifestyle for me? No. I tolerate them. They bring joy to other people, and are integral. Why can't parents tolerate what I enjoy (Society being open minded, and not having silly morals)? I swear, some parents are so pushy when it comes to the media, and "protecting" their children. I bet some parents would destroy the first amendment to protect their kids, or to make things "moral". They want to make it so only some places can show things they happen to deem offensive at certain times. Why don't I make them live in kid zones, and segregate them away from us?
Also, Konrad was right. You don't want advertisements for a VIDEO game about the FUTURE with ALIENS, but you wouldn't mind torturing people from Microsoft?
EDIT: Oops double post.
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it's coming. don't worry about it.
Also, I told you I think Microsoft is fucked up because of how they're fucking spamming halo every god damn place.
may they all be tortured in hell.
And this is different from ANY OTHER CORPORATION how? You see ads for McDonalds everywhere you turn. And Wal-Mart. I can't really give any more good examples because I don't watch TV anymore. And every other mainstream coproration that has the money to advertise like a motherfucker. So you're saying that corporations aren't allowed to advertise anymore? As much as I hate it, I have to say that they have the right to do it. It's not the corporation's job to protect the child, it's the parent's.
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The only place I understand limiting child advertising to is fast food. They did a study, and any food in a mcdonalds wrapper kids thought tasted better. Even if it was a carrot. Plus I hate obesity, and it's actually know to be harmful.
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And this is different from ANY OTHER CORPORATION how? You see ads for McDonalds everywhere you turn. And Wal-Mart. I can't really give any more good examples because I don't watch TV anymore. And every other mainstream coproration that has the money to advertise like a motherfucker. So you're saying that corporations aren't allowed to advertise anymore? As much as I hate it, I have to say that they have the right to do it. It's not the corporation's job to protect the child, it's the parent's.
Since when did a video game need to quench your thirst, balance your checking account, feed your fat fat belly, and clothe you all at the same time...?
They're just going off the deep end with this crap.
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Ok, I am starting to agree with Weclock now. There is a good show on the Discovery channel called future weapons. Halo 3 has now infiltrated that show, 3 episodes starting on Monday night. Halo 3 is everywhere, in fact it's worse than pokemon right now. Halo 3 mountain dew, halo 3 discovery channel programs, halo 3 secret advertisements, halo 3 burger king toys, Halo is now taking up 1/3 of the word use in the United States.
Is the game really better than anything ever in existence? Well, they are acting like it is. Should they burn in hell, and be tortured? Uhh... no... just steal their money by pirating halo 3, or better yet, don't buy it at all. Over 100 million copies will probably be sold though, so yea... fuck halo 3 and Micro$oft. Remember folks, these are the people who bought out Rareware, and made a horrible piece of shit of Perfect Dark on their Xbox 360, making sure they can never make a good game ever again.
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Its called marketing dude, and with much of the 360s future being bet on this game, it isn't surprising that they are trying to create a huge marketing push. If the game turns out to be good, I don't see the point in boycotting a good game just because it has a lot of hype surrounding it. Look at bioshock, that game has a huge amount of hype right now, and its an awesome game. Just because it has hype doesn't mean people should jump from the bandwagon of liking it, to the bandwagon of hating it just because it is popular.
I never particularly liked halo, and I don't have a 360, but if the game turns out to be really good, and they port it to the pc, damn straight I'll buy it. I'm a gamer first and foremost, and I'm not going to let politics or popularity put me off a good gameplay experience.
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well, they're raising the bar
let's see if they can keep up with the hype they created
actually i'm not thrilled at all by halo 3. this excessive marketing just seems stupid to me.
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Its called marketing dude, and with much of the 360s future being bet on this game, it isn't surprising that they are trying to create a huge marketing push. If the game turns out to be good, I don't see the point in boycotting a good game just because it has a lot of hype surrounding it. Look at bioshock, that game has a huge amount of hype right now, and its an awesome game. Just because it has hype doesn't mean people should jump from the bandwagon of liking it, to the bandwagon of hating it just because it is popular.
I never particularly liked halo, and I don't have a 360, but if the game turns out to be really good, and they port it to the pc, damn straight I'll buy it. I'm a gamer first and foremost, and I'm not going to let politics or popularity put me off a good gameplay experience.
It's retarded, even I have a genius mind for marketing, and spamming 'omg halo3' every where is retarded. I never said 'lol, i hate halo 3' I hate microsoft for advertising halo 3 like a penisbot.
I also, don't like bioshock. not because of hype, i was actually really impressed by it, I just played it on 360 and was unimpressed. but I'd still get bioshock before I got metroid prime 3.
I played metroid prime 3 and I was even more disappointed.
but yeah, i don't think I've said here that 'because of the politics and popularity, i'm not playing halo 3!'
if it's good, I might by it used, years down the line, because that's how I roll baby.
I don't want micro$haft to think that I bought into their shitty hype, even if it is a good game. I'll play it, but I am not going to sell out.
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I'm disgusted by little kids. It offends me. Does that mean I should make all the parents change their lifestyle for me? No. I tolerate them. They bring joy to other people, and are integral. Why can't parents tolerate what I enjoy (Society being open minded, and not having silly morals)? I swear, some parents are so pushy when it comes to the media, and "protecting" their children. I bet some parents would destroy the first amendment to protect their kids, or to make things "moral". They want to make it so only some places can show things they happen to deem offensive at certain times. Why don't I make them live in kid zones, and segregate them away from us?
Also, Konrad was right. You don't want advertisements for a VIDEO game about the FUTURE with ALIENS, but you wouldn't mind torturing people from Microsoft?
EDIT: Oops double post.
1. The biggest problem with the first amendment is that every one sees free speech as a right, not a responsibility, which is what it is.
2. I'm all for 'show whatever you want' but they have to make things appropriate, there's a time and a place for everything, there's no place for master chief in kids meals.
3. I don't want advertisements for a violent video game, marketed to kids. Teletubbies don't need to be playing halo 3.
4. What's wrong with torture? I mean, as long as I don't do it infront of children.
5. I just want things to stay appropriate, I don't want to see a childrens show where the hostess has breasts bigger than the hulks head, and covers the nipples with olives, that's inappropriate for children. Acceptable for adults, but inappropriate for children. You don't have to sensor what your children see, just be able to explain what it is they're seeing, and feeling, and tell them how to deal with those feelings they're having. I'm not toting 'censorship!!' I just want things to be appropriate.
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Some of that stuff was directed towards another poster, so some of it didn't apply to what you said.
Regarding free speech. Thats the thing though. Who gets to decide what is appropriate? Your definition of appropriate differs greatly from mine. Every parent should be able to decide what is appropriate for their own children. No one should be deciding what is appropriate for someone else (within reason of course). With game and movie ratings, parents have the ability to get an idea of what a game contains, and can decide for themselves what is appropriate. And if they are good parents, they should probably be playing the game with their kid, or watching them play at least some of it.
"i'm all for show whatever you want" and "only whats appropriate" directly contradict each other.
It's not like Burger King was setting up consoles in the restaurant and letting kids play an M rated game. They probably just have a picture of an armored warrior on the cup. There is nothing M rated about an armored guy by itself, or an action figure of master chief. Sure, it will probably make the kid want to play the game. If the parents don't think it is appropriate, tough shit for the kid, don't let him buy the game.
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i wish the first amendment protected tits
England protects tits and they don't even have a first amendment.
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It's not like Burger King was setting up consoles in the restaurant and letting kids play an M rated game. They probably just have a picture of an armored warrior on the cup. There is nothing M rated about an armored guy by itself, or an action figure of master chief. Sure, it will probably make the kid want to play the game. If the parents don't think it is appropriate, tough shit for the kid, don't let him buy the game.
It's not like they're telling kids how to turn gay or anything, it's just a rainbow.
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Fonfa, that "chick" has an adams apple, epic fail.
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It's not like they're telling kids how to turn gay or anything, it's just a rainbow.
It's not like the visible spectrum of light is being refracted at different frequencies by the water molecules in the air, it's just a rainbow
also last time I checked, people don't turn gay
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who keeps locking and deleting things?