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Title: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on September 28, 2008, 12:11:50 am: For all the loyal fans out there, we are alive and have some goodies below! Now before we hear "WHEN ARE THE RELEASE DATES!!!1!?1!?!/" just read the whole post. The mod has taken root again, and alot has been getting done behind the scenes. This mod tends to fly under the radar until MOTY (Mod of the Year) awards. We would like to continue the streak of bieng on the top 10. It seems like we are working as a team once again; and have been like this since Killer Monkey's return to land. Each member has contributed their time and boy, it has been a trip to get here. Heres how the team is broken down:

First off, a special thanks to an old developer; Mark Lodle at Moddb.com, hosting the video and doing alot of work in the background!

Runway made by myself (SharpSh00tah) is completed for the next release. The map was in development for 2+ years. It has been commited and finished. Now I am workin on Streets. If everything goes as planned, the map will be huge!

KillerMonkey has been the life behind the mod. He coded everything from scratch (hence the whole point of the BETA3). Now with the addition of two new coders, and a new modeller, work will be going just that much smoother. Next, YOLT and Deathmatch game modes have been completed and work 100%. Also, many guns have been completed and are ingame including;
pp7(s), Klobb, Cougar Mag, DD44, KF7, ZMG, DK5,RCP90, AR33, even the Tazer Boy has emerged! Yes, there is more!

SporkFire has Silo comming along!

Armored Fury is working on the TANK! Looks amazing!

4Tex is working on a suprise! As usual it looks beautiful.

InvertedShadow is workin on Archives Front Zone and Back Zone, They are nearing testing and will be a showcase map!

Well Konrad Beerbaum and KillerMonkey have taken liberty to create the mod's menu's. First pic is the Team selection, make sure to take a look at some of the options, and the brand new layout. The second pic is the character selection. The third and final pic is the scoreboard! All accompanied by the lovely Cougar Magnum that Fourtecks made and animated (yes, he is a strong as Thor's hammer.)

Team Selection

(http://forums.goldeneyesource.com/gallery/107_27_09_08_5_33_42.jpg)

Character Selection

(http://forums.goldeneyesource.com/gallery/107_27_09_08_5_33_15.jpg)

Scoreboard

(http://forums.goldeneyesource.com/gallery/107_27_09_08_5_32_29.jpg)

Runway Pictures;

On the Runway:

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2473/gerunway0014oh9.th.jpg) (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gerunway0014oh9.jpg)(http://img208.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6462/gerunway0015ea6.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gerunway0015ea6.jpg)(http://img89.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Looking down the runway from the facility building

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5796/gerunway0017hy7.th.jpg) (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gerunway0017hy7.jpg)(http://img440.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

In the Hanger:

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7484/gerunway0016fo1.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gerunway0016fo1.jpg)(http://img89.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Unreleased parts:

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2924/gerunway0018sf9.th.jpg) (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gerunway0018sf9.jpg)(http://img508.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Along with the pictures you can see there Audix had an oppertunity to make some music for Runway, it came out beautifully!
Runway background music - by Audix
www.audixmusic.com/audix_Runway.mp3
Also took his time to create some ambiance...
Multiplayer background music "Shadows in the Temple"- by Audix
www.audixmusic.com/audix_shadowbond.mp3
Good Ol' Cradle
"Rocking the Cradle" - by Audix
www.audixmusic.com/audix_Rocking_the_Cradle.mp3

And Spider, Spider has been organizing people, not only that, but has been doing some botox surgury!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/spider2544/BodyArmor_Update02.jpg)

Okay okay, Ill stop with the pictures, Here is a video of gameplay:
heres the good one: http://www.moddb.com/mods/goldeneye-source/videos/goldeneye-source-beta-3-preview1

http://www.moddb.com/media/embed/107886
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SharpSh00tah
V.S.
KillMonkey
Who will win?

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Okay guys, its time for us to ask you for help. We have decided to draft up some "Achievements" that you can unlock during game play in the near future. However, because we are trying to get this release perfect and out the door in a timely manner, we ask you for help.

Heres the plan, we want you to create 64x64pixel icon's that will be placed inside of Konrad's template. There are some requirements, We either need a layerd .PSD file or .tiff with the logo on a seperate layer.

OR you can just give me the logo with a transparent or single color background with out the template background. Basically the team needs to be able to take the logo separately and apply filters to it.

FYI: The multi-colored icon will be used once you have unlocked the achievement. Inversely, black and white Icon will be used for the locked achievements.

I want to stress the fact that you WILL be credited for ANY and ALL work that WE decide to use for a FINAL release. Next, we may alter your icon after it is received by the development team, you still WILL be credited.

Template can be downloaded: http://www.konradbeerbaum.com/ges/ach_template.zip

Please contact me (SharpSh00tah) in regards to any questions. Also, finished Icons must be sent over to me as well. Finally, please tell me what you want your alias to be credited as.

Please do not be offended if your icon is not chosen for a release.

Please, post all Icons in this thread
http://forums.goldeneyesource.com/index.php/topic,2201.0.html
All icons posted other than that thread will be deleated.

AIM:      SharpSh00tah
MSN:      Jebsistem@hotmail.com
E-Mail:      Jebsistem@aol.com

** ACHIEVEMENTS **

Licensed to Spill - Shoot 100 soda cans
Tzar of the U.S.S.R. - Kill 50 opponents with the Tazer Boy
Phantastic Phantom - Kill 50 people with Phantom
Remotely Remove - Kill 50 people with a remote mine
Timid Termination - Kill 50 people with a timed mine
Proximity Pulvarisor - Kill 50 people with proximity mine
RCP 4 Death - Kill 50 people with the RCP90 (recipe for death)
PKing Soup - Kill 50 people with the PPK
ARYOU33? - Kill 33 people with the AR3 Assault Rifle
A View To A Kill - Kill 50 opponents with the Sniper Rifle
Silent Assassin - Use only melee weapons and win the round
Number One With A Bullet - Be awarded Most Deadly and Most Accurate (in the same round)
Live and Let Die - Be the last man standing in YOLT game play without dieing (10 times)
I AM INVINCIBLE! - Be awarded Most Deadly and longest inning while playing as Boris

Sincearly

The Golden Eye Source Development Team
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on September 28, 2008, 12:30:26 am: *intense excitement*

[Will insert actual post-worthy material later, as I need to get back to work now.]

EDIT:

The video link is error'd.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Mark [lodle] on September 28, 2008, 02:13:52 am: I fix the one on moddb.com (you got the wrong link sharp!)

heres the good one: http://www.moddb.com/mods/goldeneye-source/videos/goldeneye-source-beta-3-preview1

http://www.moddb.com/media/embed/107886
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: GoldeneyeLizard on September 28, 2008, 03:40:44 am: lol
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: 1Rusky on September 28, 2008, 03:48:08 am: I'm getting the feeling back that I had when I first got this game. Thanks for the update, I knew you guys would do it!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: mbsurfer on September 28, 2008, 03:49:13 am: HOLY SHIT :o
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: FReXx on September 28, 2008, 04:22:38 am: Seriously nice job. I like it.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on September 28, 2008, 05:46:51 am: and thats why we been quiet, thanks for the responces, we really love em, but we wanted this to be out of the random for a reason ;)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Mark [lodle] on September 28, 2008, 06:17:08 am: :O

You stole my post :P

Edit: Digit http://digg.com/pc_games/GoldenEye_Source_Beta_3
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on September 28, 2008, 06:49:49 am: Very, very psyched for BETA 3.

'Tis a good idea to sort of follow the same rule as episodic gaming, as far as releases go.
Smaller things, released more frequently.
Or something to that effect.? ;)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Doc.NO on September 28, 2008, 11:28:31 am: I'm jazzed. My mates as well I hope.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: WNxCJL9788 on September 28, 2008, 11:46:58 am: Runway looks awesome. The new guns look awesome. The menus? Awesome.

Really looking foward to this guys. Keep up the great work. Can't wait...
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: WNxSauron on September 28, 2008, 12:28:22 pm: Looks very nice! Best of luck whenever you ship it! And a big w00t to you all, for your hard work and dedication to this mod.

Some sound glitching in the library fight at the end, or is it just the vid?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on September 28, 2008, 01:47:42 pm: .... no that's impossible...

I must be dreaming. Yeah, i'm defenetly dreaming...
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on September 28, 2008, 01:51:14 pm: Quote from: WNxSauron on September 28, 2008, 12:28:22 pm
Some sound glitching in the library fight at the end, or is it just the vid?

That was fraps being super gay, but the fight was awesome so I kept it in the video
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Game_Master001 on September 28, 2008, 03:23:20 pm: Sounds great. Hopefully, it will attract more people, as for so far I haven't been able to join a server with some people in it.

P.s. will basic bot support (so that they will move through the level, can open doors, know how to pick up and switch weapons, and know how to shoot) be added, or isn't that planned at all? As it would really help the people who can't come online at the right times.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Doc.NO on September 28, 2008, 04:31:43 pm: (http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3003/runwayap1.jpg)(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3633/10727090853342ui0da6.jpg)
Where is the "ge_runway" in the first one?

Gun spawn... looks like alpha. :(
Any incentives to get the achievements (like in TF2 or DOD:S)??
How did you tweaked the player collision groups in teamplay?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on September 28, 2008, 04:42:44 pm: -- Doc.NO
Map name is a bug introduced by myself, its fixed now :-S (caught me!)

Gun spawns are absolutely coded from scratch and nothing like Alpha or Beta 1.5
Working on incentives, probably not this release
Collision groups are easy

-- Game_Master001
Bots will not be introduced in BETA 3, we simply don't have to resources to program them satisfactorily at this time
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Doc.NO on September 28, 2008, 05:02:50 pm: Quote from: killermonkey on September 28, 2008, 04:42:44 pm
Gun spawns are absolutely coded from scratch and nothing like Alpha or Beta 1.5
I mean... guns arent floating in the vid.

Quote from: killermonkey on September 28, 2008, 04:42:44 pm
Working on incentives, probably not this release
There's no point of releasing achievements w/o incentives, in my opinion. Incentives can be something really simple... an icon near your name on the scoreboard, your name in another color in the hud, etc... nothing that needs hours of coding :)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on September 28, 2008, 08:13:42 pm: Hmm...The RC-P90 sounds a little... I don't know. Doesn't feel right.? :-\

Well, I unfortunately suck as drawing anything.
Was thinking of a Portal stick figure icon, with the stick in Boris' "I am invincible!" pose.
Eh?
I would make the stick orange on the outside, black on the inside, with a black background. (Instead of the regular black on white)

Too bad that's beyond my abilities... :'(
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Cyan on September 28, 2008, 11:11:17 pm: Something didn't seem right to me either, the klobb looked like a reasonably useful weapon. :)

Just kidding; really I am happy to see GES Updates again.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Sergeant Kelly on September 29, 2008, 12:59:32 am: That Shadows in the Temple song sounds like it has a lil' Red Faction in the beginning. ;)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: MtM0201 on September 29, 2008, 03:30:13 am: lol finally, I can't believe all of this has been shown all at once, thanks for the update!!!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: OverwatchTM on September 29, 2008, 04:04:31 am: This is awesome. Good to see GE:S kicking and alive again!
All I could hope for is a release by the end of the year.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Doc.NO on September 29, 2008, 10:51:23 am: Quote
Nobody said these were the only achievements. You are going to have to FIND the other ones!
Just a hint... how many of them? :P
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on September 29, 2008, 12:22:25 pm: By the way, glad you fixed the cougar magnum. In goldeneye 007, that was one of my fav weapon, but in beta 1 and 1.1... well sorry to say that, but it sucked. Now, in beta 3, he look a lot better.

Thank you!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: UnKnown-Pain on September 29, 2008, 02:21:01 pm: No comment until i've had a few games :/
Nice update to keep the kiddies at bay :/

A christmas release perhaps.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on September 29, 2008, 02:58:29 pm: Would definitely make for an awesome Christmas. ;)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathon [SSL] on September 29, 2008, 11:49:59 pm: Holy Shit the ZMG doesn't sound like a popcorn machine anymore

I was looking at those pictures and didn't think it could get any better; seriously wasn't expecting a video, pretty much peed myself when I saw the klobb ingame.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: mbsurfer on September 30, 2008, 12:55:14 am: Next step is updating the home page :-\
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: CCsaint10 on September 30, 2008, 07:45:21 pm: GREAT JOB GUYS!! AMAZING WORK! But I have 2 critiques.

1) It seemed like the movement was a tad slow. I definitely like the goldeneye feel..but watching the video seemed liked walking took forever. Not sure what everyone else thinks.

2) This might be a bug or it might be fraps, but when you were switching between remote mines and the detonator, it gave some weird bug where it would freak out or something. It is almost like you would see the hand go by really quick and then come out. On top of that, seems like the mines throw a little slow..anyone else see this in the video?

Otherwise, no complaints guys. Completely amazing update. Thank you.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: BCKMTWKILLAHS on September 30, 2008, 10:18:50 pm: Yes!! great job guys...but I have 2 suggestions as well...

1.) Ouromouv should definitley have a hat on since he had it the N64 version and plus it just replicates him more.

2.) Maybe try to do a different fall of the players when they die. For example if they get shot in the back then have them falling down knees first then onto their stomach like the orginal goldeneye..
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: CCsaint10 on September 30, 2008, 10:29:02 pm: also another thing guys. I have a suggestion. I think it would be less sickening if you had the same death animation as we have no now, but have the camera go out to 3rd person to view your body doing that. That way you can see where the fire was coming from (if you didn't know) and it will look a little more professional. Having the die when you just fall over make me sick and will make me sick watching it every time I play. Just another thought :D
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathon [SSL] on October 01, 2008, 12:41:46 am: Quote from: bklax23 on September 30, 2008, 10:29:02 pm
also another thing guys. I have a suggestion. I think it would be less sickening if you had the same death animation as we have no now, but have the camera go out to 3rd person to view your body doing that. That way you can see where the fire was coming from (if you didn't know) and it will look a little more professional. Having the die when you just fall over make me sick and will make me sick watching it every time I play. Just another thought :D

Hey, speaking of the death animations, is the jaws ragdoll still messed up? (Couldn't tell from the video)
Also, is the weapon selection menu still going to be orange for the release? I think it would look a lot better if it were a more Goldeneye themed color, such as a semi-transparent green.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 01, 2008, 02:37:43 am: Remember guys this is a "proof of concept" media release. Meaning that about 60% of what will be in the final release is in here. It shows that gameplay works, VGUI's work, and that weapons are in game and functional. The last 40% will be dedicated to polishing our existing work (mine anims for example), and completing our new work (End of Round Report, Achievements, etc.).

Thank you for your comments, not all of your questions will be answered, but trust us to make the best decisions for the mod. We promise to release a stable, highly polished, and tested version for Beta 3. That has been my goal ever since I started coding using Orange Box.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: EduCatOR on October 01, 2008, 09:30:53 am: Wow looks great guys. Can't wait, amazing work!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 01, 2008, 03:05:28 pm: Quote from: BCKMTWKILLAHS on September 30, 2008, 10:18:50 pm

1.) Ouromouv should definitley have a hat on since he had it the N64 version and plus it just replicates him more.

In the film however, he only has his hat for one scene, and a few seconds of another.
The rest of the way without.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: CCsaint10 on October 01, 2008, 10:04:51 pm: Quote from: killermonkey on October 01, 2008, 02:37:43 am
Remember guys this is a "proof of concept" media release. Meaning that about 60% of what will be in the final release is in here. It shows that gameplay works, VGUI's work, and that weapons are in game and functional. The last 40% will be dedicated to polishing our existing work (mine anims for example), and completing our new work (End of Round Report, Achievements, etc.).

Thank you for your comments, not all of your questions will be answered, but trust us to make the best decisions for the mod. We promise to release a stable, highly polished, and tested version for Beta 3. That has been my goal ever since I started coding using Orange Box.

Got couple more questions killermonkey,

First of all, will the shotgun make it in beta 3 and will the spread cause the right amount of damage and so on?

Second, are you guys working on a new way of scrolling through weapons picked up? or will it just stay as the orange scroll on the bottom right?

You are awesome killermonkey. I don't expect all my questions to be answered, unless you are willing to. My main hope is just that you think of them and take them into consideration when you guys make a final release. :D Thanks GES team. You guys are the best. :)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Doc.NO on October 01, 2008, 10:54:16 pm: Aye, got some question as well, if your willing to answer :P

1- In the vid, I saw that annoying auto switch alpha-like system when you pick a weap (think it was an AR33 in the vid). I am right? If so, is it possible to have some kind of client sided option to disable it?

2- Why not including those noice shiny steam community avatar on the scoreboard?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: major on October 01, 2008, 11:12:40 pm: Quote from: Doc.NO on October 01, 2008, 10:54:16 pm
2- Why not including those noice shiny steam community avatar on the scoreboard?

The Steam avatars I think Kinda get cluttered(even though there cool), I think using your steam name is enough.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Sergeant Kelly on October 01, 2008, 11:52:39 pm: Quote from: BCKMTWKILLAHS on September 30, 2008, 10:18:50 pm
1.) Ouromouv should definitley have a hat on since he had it the N64 version and plus it just replicates him more.

Quote from: Rodney 1.666 on October 01, 2008, 03:05:28 pm
In the film however, he only has his hat for one scene, and a few seconds of another.
The rest of the way without.

I think going with two separate skins, one with and without a hat, would fix this up nicely. Choice is always good.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 02, 2008, 02:26:33 am: bklax:
1. Of course we are going to have the shotgun! That is by far the coolest weapon IMO. Look for it in the next media release (currently being re-animated/re-worked)

2. I have not decided on a new weapon selection yet, if you guys have any ideas go ahead and post em. As for the colors, those at LEAST will be changed (orange is HL2!) This is a fill in from Beta 1 so that we can play the game :)

Dr. NO

1. The auto switch is already a client side option ala HL2 base code. You can access it through the Options panel. It will remain in Beta 3 and the exception to the alpha version is that in Beta 3 the weapons have weight (properly) so you WILL NOT switch to PP7 from the RCP90!

2. I discussed with Konrad whether he wanted the avatars in the scoreboard and it just simply wouldn't work with our layout. As much as I like them, they don't fit into the game either. Maybe they will show up in another VGUI?? (End of Round Report?) we shall see, but don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 02, 2008, 06:05:57 am: Quote from: Sergeant Kelly on October 01, 2008, 11:52:39 pm
I think going with two separate skins, one with and without a hat, would fix this up nicely. Choice is always good.

Was going to edit and suggest that, actually. :P
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: CCsaint10 on October 02, 2008, 07:11:22 pm: Quote from: killermonkey on October 02, 2008, 02:26:33 am
bklax:
1. Of course we are going to have the shotgun! That is by far the coolest weapon IMO. Look for it in the next media release (currently being re-animated/re-worked)

2. I have not decided on a new weapon selection yet, if you guys have any ideas go ahead and post em. As for the colors, those at LEAST will be changed (orange is HL2!) This is a fill in from Beta 1 so that we can play the game :)

Dr. NO

1. The auto switch is already a client side option ala HL2 base code. You can access it through the Options panel. It will remain in Beta 3 and the exception to the alpha version is that in Beta 3 the weapons have weight (properly) so you WILL NOT switch to PP7 from the RCP90!

2. I discussed with Konrad whether he wanted the avatars in the scoreboard and it just simply wouldn't work with our layout. As much as I like them, they don't fit into the game either. Maybe they will show up in another VGUI?? (End of Round Report?) we shall see, but don't hold your breath.

Thanks for the response man. I am really happy this is turning out the way it is. At this rate of being only 60% done like you say, this is going to be the most badass mod ever. It looks ever so perfect right now. :D Thank you dev team.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathon [SSL] on October 02, 2008, 11:00:11 pm: Quote from: killermonkey on October 02, 2008, 02:26:33 am
2. I have not decided on a new weapon selection yet, if you guys have any ideas go ahead and post em. As for the colors, those at LEAST will be changed (orange is HL2!) This is a fill in from Beta 1 so that we can play the game :)

I think that this may have been discussed a while ago in another thread, or maybe I'm just daydreaming again, but I think that it would look cool if the weapons selection was a semi-transparent green, with the weapon names written on them, and as you scrolled through the weapons, they would rotate around in a circle formation, and as you got to a third of a circle, they would begin to fade out. (So that it looks like an ingame watch menu sort of)

And yeah, here's a sloppy picture of what I'm trying to explain: So the selections are green, and rotate in a circle. As the circle rotates, weapons will fade off the list as others come in, and the selected weapon with be highlighted in the center.

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Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: CCsaint10 on October 02, 2008, 11:50:55 pm: maybe you could do something like perfect dark and have the weapons around the center area and then when the person holds the button to select the weapon he can either hit w, a, s, and d to pick which way he wants it to go to pick a weapon. Essentially the same way perfect dark was but with some modifications with the keyboard and mouse of course....or just have the mouse movements select the way you pick the weapon.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: mookie on October 03, 2008, 12:02:12 am: Quote from: The SSL on October 02, 2008, 11:00:11 pm
I think that this may have been discussed a while ago in another thread, or maybe I'm just daydreaming again, but I think that it would look cool if the weapons selection was a semi-transparent green, with the weapon names written on them, and as you scrolled through the weapons, they would rotate around in a circle formation, and as you got to a third of a circle, they would begin to fade out. (So that it looks like an ingame watch menu sort of)

And yeah, here's a sloppy picture of what I'm trying to explain: So the selections are green, and rotate in a circle. As the circle rotates, weapons will fade off the list as others come in, and the selected weapon with be highlighted in the center.

Shockingly, a good idea.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on October 03, 2008, 12:10:37 am: Agree with "The SSL" about the rotary guns. Also agree about the fade thing.

However, I suggest that it would be better if the selection is the shape of the weapons instead of the names on a green background.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 03, 2008, 01:17:29 am: Perhaps how they look on the Bond Watch when you pause.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathon [SSL] on October 03, 2008, 01:47:19 am: Quote from: Rodney 1.666 on October 03, 2008, 01:17:29 am
Perhaps how they look on the Bond Watch when you pause.

Which was what I meant, but that would be kind of boring, having them go simply up and down, so why not add some extra flare by having them in a circular formation?

OR even easier, it cold be like the original GE where you don't even have a menu in multiplayer, instead you just scroll up or down on the wheel, and it takes out all the different weapons without a menu.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 03, 2008, 04:20:39 am: SSL your implementation is very Call Of Duty esque (especially with the outlined weapons)... and copying PD is out of the question. Thanks for the input, we will mull over this on the dev side
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Senshi on October 03, 2008, 06:54:55 am: i think the poster above means a secret of mana like ring menu ^^

This would be really nice :)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: kraid on October 03, 2008, 11:05:37 am: Quote from: bklax23 on October 02, 2008, 11:50:55 pm
maybe you could do something like perfect dark and have the weapons around the center area and then when the person holds the button to select the weapon he can either hit w, a, s, and d to pick which way he wants it to go to pick a weapon. Essentially the same way perfect dark was but with some modifications with the keyboard and mouse of course....or just have the mouse movements select the way you pick the weapon.
The problem with it is, you have to stop moving while select a weapon, which is really deadly in this game.
IMO, any kind of ring menu would cause more problems then it could solve.
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OR even easier, it cold be like the original GE where you don't even have a menu in multiplayer, instead you just scroll up or down on the wheel, and it takes out all the different weapons without a menu.
This sounds far better to me. Along with a nice weaponswiching sound... omg i get nostalgic
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 03, 2008, 02:53:27 pm: Those are the two options I'm thinking of.

A) A very small, rotating model of the weapon next to the name. (Like in the pause menu.)

B) Just the name.

The PD thing, while nifty-looking, would be a huge annoyance.
Besides, that's just not what it's about. ::)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathan [Spider] on October 03, 2008, 10:41:29 pm: SSL i dig that idea man

the way you have it now is graphically REALLY sloppy haha but the concept it self seems sound. we might play around with that to see how it feels if we can make it look good.

at the very worst though, we will change the color of the current menu to be more GE64 than HL2.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: redsteven on October 04, 2008, 07:44:29 am: just wanted to say that i look forward to playing this mod when it comes out
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: UnKnown-Pain on October 04, 2008, 11:13:59 pm: Just a quick question and forgive me for not going through every thread. Basically are you going to impliment the radar that was in the original goldeneye. To me it was one of Goldeneye 64's distinctive features and a must in my eyes. Then again im not a dev so your ideas may be different.

Enlighten me :/
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 05, 2008, 12:38:56 am: It's on the list, great question Unknown-Pain
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 05, 2008, 12:47:21 am: Hmm...
If implemented, would the radar have upward/downward facing triangles to indicate if a foe is on a higher or lower level than you?
Though that was done in PD``, not GE.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 05, 2008, 05:27:09 am: It will be nostalgic, meaning exactly like GE64. It will also be server-side configurable on/off much like it was in the GE64 options
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: UnKnown-Pain on October 05, 2008, 12:16:41 pm: The radar was always one of GE64's plus points. Also campers in big maps like runway sniping away from a distant corner of the map can easily be found. I'm sure thats crushed a few campers dreams :/

Last question, the golden gun...will it be working for the initial release because i intend to set up a GG server. Also all the talk about limiting armor pickups will that be a server side option ?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 05, 2008, 08:34:52 pm: Ah, right.
Speaking of snipers, will we be seeing any alterations to the sniper rifle? I literally never use it for serious play. I mean, I'll mess around with it, but if I'm actually playing, never.

The main problem is that it doesn't do anywhere near enough damage. A silenced PP7 with a scope, basically.
I know that that's what it is on the N64, but GE: Source has a different "feel" to it, and it's harder to hit people with it here.
Also, with the recoil, there is no point at all in firing again shortly after each shot. You have wait a bit for the rifle to be still again. Combine that with what was said above, and it's really not worth it.

That's my constructive criticism, anyway.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: stealthredneck on October 05, 2008, 09:28:17 pm: I just wanted to post to say that so long as this mod is in the works I will always be a supporter! So far the music is wonderful, the achievements are witty, and the characters, menus, and weapons are down-right wicked.

Can't wait for the release of the newest beta...just make sure it's not too early!

much love!

Stealth
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: CCsaint10 on October 06, 2008, 06:07:12 am: Quote from: Rodney 1.666 on October 05, 2008, 08:34:52 pm
Ah, right.
Speaking of snipers, will we be seeing any alterations to the sniper rifle? I literally never use it for serious play. I mean, I'll mess around with it, but if I'm actually playing, never.

The main problem is that it doesn't do anywhere near enough damage. A silenced PP7 with a scope, basically.
I know that that's what it is on the N64, but GE: Source has a different "feel" to it, and it's harder to hit people with it here.
Also, with the recoil, there is no point at all in firing again shortly after each shot. You have wait a bit for the rifle to be still again. Combine that with what was said above, and it's really not worth it.

That's my constructive criticism, anyway.

yeah, on top of that thought, I would like to see more body damage ratios. If you get a headshot, I hope you get the damage you deserve for that headshot. It was dumb in the old version that the sniper rifle took longer to kill someone with then someone with a zmg at long range. And even if you hit him 4 times with the sniper, he still have half health :( Anyway, i hope balancing of body areas hit is worked on..or the sniper rifle gets A LOT more damage for headshots and shots in general..otherwise, it is a pointless weapon.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: UnKnown-Pain on October 06, 2008, 10:30:03 am: Quote from: bklax23 on October 06, 2008, 06:07:12 am
yeah, on top of that thought, I would like to see more body damage ratios. If you get a headshot, I hope you get the damage you deserve for that headshot. It was dumb in the old version that the sniper rifle took longer to kill someone with then someone with a zmg at long range. And even if you hit him 4 times with the sniper, he still have half health :( Anyway, i hope balancing of body areas hit is worked on..or the sniper rifle gets A LOT more damage for headshots and shots in general..otherwise, it is a pointless weapon.

It was pointless in GE64 so it depends on how the devs view the weapon. I agree more damage for headshots but id keep the body damage the same for the sniper rifle. You have to think of maps like cradle every person will just grab a sniper rifle and camp at each tower.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Doc.NO on October 06, 2008, 06:58:56 pm: Sniper was pointless in GE64. So it should stay pointless in GES. Dont see the point of having a TF2 or CSS-like sniper. This game isn't CSS.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on October 06, 2008, 08:18:44 pm: Doc.NO : In that case just remove the sniper :-\ ...

My opinion is to give more damage only if headshot whit the sniper. Not 1 shot kill like css, but maybe half of damage.

That's my opinion.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: mookie on October 06, 2008, 08:24:32 pm: Headshots already do twice the damage of bodyshots, what more do you want?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on October 06, 2008, 08:37:20 pm: Yeah but whit the old beta 1 hitbox, excuse me but it taked to me a hudge total of 10 headshot on cradle to finaly take down someone whitout an armor. That's way to much, so what do I want, like you're saying, is more damage for one headshot.

That's only MY opinion, if you guys disagree, it's ok. I don't care, because beta 3 is going to rock anyway :D!!!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: CCsaint10 on October 06, 2008, 11:00:02 pm: I damage shouldn't be as high as css but it definitely should be somewhat higher then it is right now becuse it is a little rediculous. It should be like 4 shots or something because it is, after all, a sniper riffle. However, make sure you don't do the damage like css because that is WAY TOO MUCH. The point is guys, I just would like to see a little bit more damage from that weapon...even if it isnt that much.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: kraid on October 07, 2008, 12:49:33 am: Who uses the Sniper, except of siberia or Cradle on LTK it's pointless.
But it was in GE64 so it has to stay in.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathon [SSL] on October 07, 2008, 01:04:48 am: The GE64 Sniper Rifle was essentially a Silenced PP7 with a zoom lens, and if you shot enemies anywhere but the head, it took around 3-4 shots to get a kill. The only way to get any use out of it was to use stealth and get headshots from far away, bu was completely useless for close combat because as far as I can remember, the auto-aim didn't work for the Sniper Rifle.

Also, this is just a thought, but I was playing some GE64 over the weekend with my buddies, and noticed that when you shot people repeatedly with weapons, there would be a delay of about 1 second between which I could do damage, with the intervals filled in by my opponent sliding backwards. Is there any chance that any of this will be implemented, such as a possible damage delay, determined by a variable of whether or not players slid around when hit?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 07, 2008, 01:41:53 am: Sniper should be more than a silenced PP7 with a scope. That's all I'm saying.
Not too much, as this would cause a sky-rocket increase in campers.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 07, 2008, 04:00:38 am: The SSL:
What you are referring to is invulnerability. And yes, it is ALREADY implemented! It works great and does not lag at all. When you are hit you get 0.5 seconds of invuln time so that allows you to escape or get cover while getting pelted with bullets ultimately increasing the amount of time the firefight lasts. You can see this the best in N64 when you blow up a mine and walk into the fire, you won't get damaged but every 0.5 seconds.

This is active in the video, so its not a super effect, but it definitely makes a difference
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathan [Spider] on October 07, 2008, 08:08:13 am: invulnerability is a really important feature and its been a long time coming to get it up and running properly in the game.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: UnKnown-Pain on October 07, 2008, 01:25:39 pm: bumping my golden gun question again ... :/
Any news on the goldengun mode from the original, body armor limitations... etc
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 07, 2008, 01:55:06 pm: It will be in Beta 3, working on implementation in the near future. Will be fully LUA based so you can change the settings for your server if you like (body armor or what not)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: 1Rusky on October 08, 2008, 12:30:25 am: I was wondering if rocket launcher or grenades have been put into the game yet. Just thinking how great that would be on cradle.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 08, 2008, 02:50:01 am: The rocket launcher model exists.
No grenade models to my knowledge, but I'm sure they'll be in.

EDIT:

Rocket launcher here:
http://forums.goldeneyesource.com/index.php/topic,1092.0.html
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: 1Rusky on October 08, 2008, 03:06:16 am: Quote from: Rodney 1.666 on October 08, 2008, 02:50:01 am
The rocket launcher model exists.
No grenade models to my knowledge, but I'm sure they'll be in.

EDIT:

Rocket launcher here:
http://forums.goldeneyesource.com/index.php/topic,1092.0.html

Thanks for that. Was wondering if there's a chance the rocket launcher will be in the next release as well. Thanks ;)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: mbsurfer on October 08, 2008, 03:28:21 am: Quote from: Rodney 1.666 on October 08, 2008, 02:50:01 am
No grenade models to my knowledge, but I'm sure they'll be in.
Gotcha covered.
(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/5/4506/53308.jpg)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 08, 2008, 04:06:21 am: All weapons *should* appear in the next release, we already have half of them fully functioning! Some new ones would be the rocket launcher, grenade, grenade launcher, and the tazerboy and will require some work to implement (grenades are already implemented as of two days ago) but David and I can handle it no problem.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on October 08, 2008, 12:28:30 pm: You should add an achievement about explosive weapons, like the grenades.

And, by the way, will the DD44 be a little more strong ?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jace_C88 on October 08, 2008, 03:30:43 pm: Awesome work team, it looks incredible. I'm feeling confident that this game may just get my friends back into video games ;D
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: I8PP on October 09, 2008, 05:29:59 am: Wow, all of this looks really awesome.

A suggestion for achievements, perhaps:

- An achievement revolving around multi-kills. I'm sure we all remember the fabled quad-kill (D'OH!), right?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: MtM0201 on October 09, 2008, 07:00:55 pm: lol I remember the quad kill, yea, an achievement like wipe out the whole sever within ( x number of seconds ) without dying would be cool.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on October 09, 2008, 08:29:09 pm: Annother achievement idea. Like the TF2 one : Force a player to leave the server after killing him 5 time whitout dying.

Would be awesome ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: UnKnown-Pain on October 09, 2008, 11:47:47 pm: Quote from: killermonkey on October 08, 2008, 04:06:21 am
All weapons *should* appear in the next release, we already have half of them fully functioning! Some new ones would be the rocket launcher, grenade, grenade launcher, and the tazerboy and will require some work to implement (grenades are already implemented as of two days ago) but David and I can handle it no problem.

When i do get a server up for it i'll be banning grenades, grenades just remind me of WWII sims and CSS :)

On a different note, how far along are you with the 'awards'? eg. Most deadly, AC -10 Award etc ? Be interesting to see how its implimented and hopefully it won't end up like 6 people on the server getting the same award...if you catch my drift :/

ps. I already know the AC -10 Award is mine :/
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Doc.NO on October 10, 2008, 12:01:54 am: Quote from: UnKnown-Pain on October 09, 2008, 11:47:47 pm
grenades just remind me of WWII sims and CSS :)
Quoted for truth!

Another question... are the proxies still as cheap as in the current build (beta 1.0 / 1.1)?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: CCsaint10 on October 10, 2008, 01:07:44 am: since we were talking about achievements and TF2, I really think we should have an achievement or "tracker" like in TF2 that shows what the highest amount of kills you have EVER gotten in a game of GE:S in which you have played. I think everyone knows what I am talking about. It has that graph when you load the server that shows how many kills you have had in 1 streak? Yeah, that is it. It should also show something or play a sound or something in game when you pass that kill limit from before. :D

So many ideas with so little time.
Thanks guys,
Lax
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on October 10, 2008, 01:50:32 am: Quote from: bklax23 on October 10, 2008, 01:07:44 am
since we were talking about achievements and TF2, I really think we should have an achievement or "tracker" like in TF2 that shows what the highest amount of kills you have EVER gotten in a game of GE:S in which you have played. I think everyone knows what I am talking about. It has that graph when you load the server that shows how many kills you have had in 1 streak? Yeah, that is it. It should also show something or play a sound or something in game when you pass that kill limit from before. :D

So many ideas with so little time.
Thanks guys,
Lax

I think it's be a great idea, but, you know... I don't think that developpers have ennough time for that ;).

...

OH MAN CAN'T WAIT TIL BETA 3!!!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: killermonkey on October 10, 2008, 02:40:58 am: I will detail our implementation of Achievements (Awards) in a future Programmer Blog be on a look out for it within the next couple weeks.

I will also be detailing game play via LUA in a developer blog as well.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: I8PP on October 10, 2008, 10:41:43 am: Man, this is gonna be awesome... I'm a sucker for statistics and interesting achievements. I have another suggestion: What about tracking how many times you win awards and maybe corresponding achievements, like one for X amount of Most Deadly's, etc.?

I understand that these are relatively minor things compared to the rest of the stuff you guys have to do, but I just wanted to get that out there.

@ UnKnown-Pain: Screw you, the AC-10 is all MINE. :)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: UnKnown-Pain on October 10, 2008, 03:44:12 pm: Quote from: I8PP on October 10, 2008, 10:41:43 am
@ UnKnown-Pain: Screw you, the AC-10 is all MINE. :)

My AC-10 magnetic boots are already on son. :/
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 10, 2008, 06:49:32 pm: AC-10 ftw.

And I almost never use acronyms. ;)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Ruone Delacroix on October 10, 2008, 09:17:44 pm: It's been awhile since I've hopped on here to see what's new and true. Very very promising. I look forward to the Beta 3 release.

Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: m-p{3} on October 12, 2008, 03:40:47 am: Yay, I'll be able to get into some good gaming once again!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathon [SSL] on October 13, 2008, 08:35:02 pm: Hey, just a quick question, what's the estimated file size of the release?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Spoudazo on October 14, 2008, 04:35:42 am: Ya'll are doing a great job! 8)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on October 14, 2008, 04:42:25 am: less than 4,778,749,440 bytes
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 14, 2008, 05:34:14 am: Or 4 GB. ::)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Ruone Delacroix on October 15, 2008, 07:35:42 pm: No matter the size, I'll still nab it. Bring it on!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: olileauk on October 16, 2008, 08:07:29 pm: OMG OMGOMG OMG OMG

1. you guys rule.
2. this looks amazing
3. i don't care how long i have to wait
4. ZOMG
5. yay for GES still being alive.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on October 16, 2008, 10:04:30 pm: Quote from: olileauk on October 16, 2008, 08:07:29 pm

yay for GES still being alive.

That was a joke, HAHA, fat chance.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: FlyBMXer4130 on October 21, 2008, 08:08:40 am: Haha I like how you've made weight in kg and height in ft/in - make sure to confuse every country!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Deed on October 21, 2008, 05:43:26 pm: Fuck kilograms.

Real men measure in stones.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on October 21, 2008, 07:42:16 pm: I believe the metric system just totally got called out for being a pussy
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on October 23, 2008, 03:14:57 pm: Quote from: Deed on October 21, 2008, 05:43:26 pm
Fuck kilograms.

Real men measure in stones.

Few of us probably know what that even means. ::)

I happen to weigh 7.85714286 stone. (Huzza for Google calculator!)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: olileauk on October 23, 2008, 06:05:26 pm: Quote from: Rodney 1.666 on October 23, 2008, 03:14:57 pm
Few of us probably know what that even means. ::)

I happen to weigh 7.85714286 stone. (Huzza for Google calculator!)

o.O

I weigh 9 Stone 1 ^.^
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: sethxdeath on October 27, 2008, 04:17:32 pm: I just stopped by to say I'm really glad such progress is being made and I am eager to see the next iteration of this mod. If possible, I'd love to be in on the testing for the releases.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: StrikerMan780 on October 30, 2008, 11:05:57 pm: I'm getting very anxious..... I'm desperately wanting to play this with my buds.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: sethxdeath on October 31, 2008, 01:30:28 am: Yeah, words cannot express how badly I want to play this game. I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but I think it would be great if the developers expanded their work and let in more developers to work on a full-port of the single-player game. How awesome would a co-op 007 single player campaign be? Perfect Dark had it.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on October 31, 2008, 01:44:47 am: Letting in more people (by the masses) has caused many other mods to collapse... However, I am behind this mod till the single player is done, HOWEVER I DO NOT, want to HINT at ANYTHING because its not in the descussion at the moment. It WILL come up later, but as I said, not at the present.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Deed on October 31, 2008, 03:48:00 pm: Quote from: Rodney 1.666 on October 23, 2008, 03:14:57 pm
Few of us probably know what that even means. ::)

I happen to weigh 7.85714286 stone. (Huzza for Google calculator!)

What are you, nine?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: major on October 31, 2008, 10:29:28 pm: I weight about 16 stones, damn I need a Bowflex.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on November 01, 2008, 02:58:37 am: Quote from: Deed on October 31, 2008, 03:48:00 pm
What are you, nine?

Seventeen, actually.
What are you trying to say?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: X-tra on November 01, 2008, 01:46:39 pm: He's saying that you are very light

Am I right ?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on November 01, 2008, 03:32:14 pm: LMAO i see where this is going haha, lets get back on topic
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Kickflipkid687 on November 01, 2008, 07:44:42 pm: Hey, do you guys need any more modelers on the team anymore? Since I'm out of college now I have more time. I am working contract at Bungie right now, but I want to do things outside of work I could use on my portfolio and do something different and on a smaller team.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Konrad Beerbaum on November 01, 2008, 07:55:00 pm: Hey Kickflip!

Nice to see you again. I would hit up fourtecks or spider on aim, they can probably give you a more specific answer on that, but we can always use the help.

Are you doing freelance work for bungie, or are you at the studio? Either way, congrats.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Kickflipkid687 on November 01, 2008, 11:03:33 pm: I've been working in the studio with them for about 4 months now. I'm doing quite a bit of work on Halo 3:Recon. I've learned alot so far :).

I will hit them up and see what they have to say. Thanks
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Kickflipkid687 on November 02, 2008, 04:18:54 am: KM said to ask Fourtecks for the SVN info. so I can get the updates. I was planning to fix up Boris first. I want to fix his legs and shirt and maybe some other things. I already changed his arms/hands 5 months back when I rigged him for my portfolio.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Kickflipkid687 on November 02, 2008, 08:00:23 pm: Well I haven't heard anything either way, but I am reworking Boris at the moment. He has new arms/hands from a model I did not long ago, and I think his legs are fixed but I am going to relook them over. I also just re-did the topology around his shoulders and back/butt somewhat and took out some loops. I also untucked his shirt and fixed some normal issues.

(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8251/borisvo9.th.jpg) (http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=borisvo9.jpg)(http://img79.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on November 04, 2008, 01:41:49 am: im getting tingly inbetween my legs.. Looking good man cant wait to see it done... again!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Kickflipkid687 on November 04, 2008, 02:46:13 am: lol, ya I'm excited to get him done again.

I have a question about normal maps. Is it even worth the time to do them for Half life 2? I've read that they don't even work well generally in the game, but I haven't really played around with them in-engine yet. I mean, does Alyx or any characters in the game use anything besides diffuse and maybe spec?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Konrad Beerbaum on November 04, 2008, 05:31:44 am: Yea they are worth it for characters, mishkin looked totally flat without normal maps. The hl2 characters definitely use normal maps.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: diesal11 on November 04, 2008, 08:36:00 am: hey all
first off this mod is looking great
but seeing as you're changing the orange W.S. to green because of hl2 if any of you have played opposing force then you will notice that was green i say try a diffrent colour like say... GOLD!
i also wouldent mind seeing a black W.S. screen
oh also could you possibly make a option to ise the original sounds or the guns some of them like the ak-47 sounded really good
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Konrad Beerbaum on November 04, 2008, 06:12:20 pm: If you're talking about the scoreboard, the reason we made it green was because the equivalent menu in GE64 (the watch menu) was green, so we're trying to retain some of that feel.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Kickflipkid687 on November 04, 2008, 07:21:20 pm: Alright, I will use the normal map then on Boris's head again, and probably redo his body normal then I suppose. I have to get used to Zbrush again, I haven't used that in a while.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: diesal11 on November 05, 2008, 08:37:06 am: Quote from: Konrad Beerbaum on November 04, 2008, 06:12:20 pm
If you're talking about the scoreboard, the reason we made it green was because the equivalent menu in GE64 (the watch menu) was green, so we're trying to retain some of that feel.
ah i see ive never really played GE64 anyway
oh and also W.S. = weapon select
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on November 06, 2008, 10:12:20 am: ah, I thought you meant west side
(http://vwt.d2g.com:8081/WestSideStory.jpg)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Kickflipkid687 on November 07, 2008, 06:54:54 am: noooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on November 07, 2008, 09:07:03 am: When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way! From your first cigarette to your last dying day!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: mbsurfer on November 08, 2008, 03:47:03 pm: The sharks were always underestimated I thought... Take a look at Bernardo:

(http://www.figurerealm.com/Galleries/streetsharks/Blades-Front.jpg)
Pure badass.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: gggg on November 30, 2008, 05:59:12 am: so i say were back on track good i know this gets annoying but do you know when at least part of this will come out
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on December 01, 2008, 12:12:40 am: ...part of it?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Konrad Beerbaum on December 01, 2008, 12:39:11 am: Quote from: gggg on November 30, 2008, 05:59:12 am
so i say were back on track good i know this gets annoying but do you know when at least part of this will come out

It will all be released as a single beta, no dates have been set, but we are working on it and expect to release fairly soon.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Storm101 on December 01, 2008, 12:45:51 am: Didn't you guys say you were going to start releasing updates every few months? Or is that after this single beta is released?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on December 01, 2008, 01:47:41 am: yea we did, its been 2 months
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Storm101 on December 01, 2008, 02:02:50 am: Wait, by updates do you mean topics like this? I thought it was releases of the mod itself, judging by the quote "We decided to release smaller chunks of polished material much more frequently."
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on December 01, 2008, 03:28:31 am: media release, not beta release
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Konrad Beerbaum on December 01, 2008, 05:38:20 am: Quote from: Storm101 on December 01, 2008, 02:02:50 am
Wait, by updates do you mean topics like this? I thought it was releases of the mod itself, judging by the quote "We decided to release smaller chunks of polished material much more frequently."

The initial idea was to release in smaller chunks, but now it has gotten skewed towards a bigger initial release and patches afterward. This is mainly because we had so much content already done, there wasn't any reason not to include it.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: BCKMTWKILLAHS on December 01, 2008, 06:29:24 am: omg just release beta 3 already.. ::)
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jatycre on December 01, 2008, 08:43:52 am: Quote from: BCKMTWKILLAHS on December 01, 2008, 06:29:24 am
omg just release beta 3 already.. ::)

Dude, chill. It'll be done when it's ready (not to over quote the Duke Nukem Forever team). This project is a huge undertaking. The guys are working hard, rest assured. Yes it's taking some time, but it'll only be better for it in the end. The end result will be high quality. Instead of something along the lines of "Project Goldeneye" for UT2k4 that was a total mess in the end and completely unplayable.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Wake[of]theBunT on December 01, 2008, 11:53:38 am: The original had nicely laid out weaponsets, the mod is utilizing these as a base structure and so to release say for instance weapons in "small chunks" as releases just wouldnt be practical. You'd have a slightly incomplete gameplay for *X*month(s) until each patch. The team is pushing to get all guns into the beta3 release for a complete coverage of the weaponsets ; given ALL of the weapons are done artside (in max,maya etc) this is a smart decision for your replay value :D

Further "chunk" releases will be for game-modes, maps and further characters as they get made and tested.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on December 01, 2008, 11:27:41 pm: precisely. this will be the frame release, which will allow us to make smaller more frequent updates with new maps, characters and features
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: gggg on December 02, 2008, 10:12:58 pm: Quote from: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on December 01, 2008, 12:12:40 am
...part of it?
what i meant was when part of it will get done not relaesed my bad

lookin good so far i hope we see a xanatos movie using beta 3 ;D
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jonathon [SSL] on December 03, 2008, 02:20:07 am: Quote from: gggg on December 02, 2008, 10:12:58 pm
what i meant was when part of it will get done not relaesed my bad

lookin good so far i hope we see a xanatos movie using beta 3 ;D

Don't count on it lol
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: gggg on December 04, 2008, 03:07:43 am: meh..... u never know
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on December 05, 2008, 12:45:53 am: Quote from: gggg on December 04, 2008, 03:07:43 am
meh..... u never know

nope I know lol i been trying to get ahold of him for like a week for this haha
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Cloppy on December 06, 2008, 03:05:02 am: awsome video. maps and new guns look amazing!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on December 06, 2008, 03:15:15 am: Quote from: Cloppy on December 06, 2008, 03:05:02 am
awsome video. maps and new guns look amazing!

you look amazing! where have you been man !?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: darktimelord09 on December 07, 2008, 01:26:54 am: Love the beta 3 video kept it up
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: BCKMTWKILLAHS on December 14, 2008, 01:11:58 am: awesome work..but i have one suggestion...if your tryin to make it like the original game then shouldnt oddjob be wearing his hat with a black suit instead of blue? Shouldnt Ouromouv also be wearing a hat?
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: SteelWing on December 14, 2008, 05:18:47 am: Awesome job! I noticed the Moonraker Laser wasnt in the list. We're going to have all of the weapons right? I mean i'd understand if they weren't in right at the beginning but eventually getting there. Anyway, Looks great. Can't wait for the release!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on December 15, 2008, 06:04:15 am: Quote from: BCKMTWKILLAHS on December 14, 2008, 01:11:58 am
awesome work..but i have one suggestion...if your tryin to make it like the original game then shouldnt oddjob be wearing his hat with a black suit instead of blue? Shouldnt Ouromouv also be wearing a hat?

I believe Orumov will be available with and without the hat, as an option.
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Xevous on January 03, 2009, 04:55:08 pm: Ah the mod its to hod, i will have the Beta :(

Very good News!
Title: Re: GES Update 9/27/08
Post by: Spydow on January 12, 2009, 06:11:22 pm: Can't waiiiiit :'( :'(