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Title: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on August 22, 2012, 10:00:27 am
Hey guys,

  I would like some advice since I haven't exactly been keeping up with the most recent hardware and do not know what is the best "bang for the buck". Essentially, if I had to grade a computer I am looking for, I would say I want parts that are in the 80-85 percentile of awesomeness. So that, in my own mind, means parts that are almost top of the line but are not over excessive to the point where I am paying an arm and a leg for little things that don't matter as much.

Currently, this is what I have put together for parts. I am going with Intel because I got a screaming deal from a friend that makes all these parts I am listing much cheaper than they show up on newegg.

Power Supply: SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS082512&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS082512-_-EMC-082512-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17151087-L08C

Processor: Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492

Processor Cooling: Antec KUHLER H2O 920 Liquid Cooling System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209054

Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801

Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9Q-16GBXL. 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231456

Video Card: GIGABYTE GV-R795WF3-3GD Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414

SSD: Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW240A3K5 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167086

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi Black High Performance PC Computer Case w/ USB 3.0 and 3 x Fractal High Performance 140mm fans
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352007
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 22, 2012, 12:14:22 pm
Processor- Looks pretty damn good. I was looking at toms-hardware charts and they had only 2010 cpus that were bench marked bummer.

CPU Heatsink- You could get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065)   Its a motherfucking beast. Keeps my cpu cool as ice in summer. Make sure you put some Arctic Silver 5 paste. I never worked with liquid cooling, but if that's your plan, awesome.

SSD- HOLYY SHITTT thats a big ass size. The price is outrageous. I am waiting till they go down. What you can do is, get a SSD and install Windows on it. Then install applications and games on the traditional drive. Some games that take a while to load, can go on the SSD. That way your not wearing out the drive too much. Sure there is wear leveling and tech has got better, but SSD's use flash memory and who knows they could wear out quicker.

Case-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021)    That is the Antec 900 black Steel case. Features usb 3.0

Also http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107  this has a top loading HDD Dock. So instead of buying a external sata case, just insert the bare drive ontop of the case and bam your done. Good for format, data backups etc.


Power Supplies- The most efficient and durable power supplies are from Seasonic. What is your price range for the power supply?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Manufactory=1697&N=50001697&IsNodeId=1&SpeTabStoreType=0 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Manufactory=1697&N=50001697&IsNodeId=1&SpeTabStoreType=0)

1050Watts would be plenty for your entire build and you could add more stuff and you should still have enough wattage left over.

Video Card- Check here for benchmarks http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/01-3DMark11-C-Extreme,2933.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/01-3DMark11-C-Extreme,2933.html)

I heard good things about the Geforce 660TI, but the 7970 eats the latest geforce card.

Motherboard/Ram - I would also like input which one is the best to get.
 
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on August 22, 2012, 12:54:49 pm
Processor- Looks pretty damn good. I was looking at toms-hardware charts and they had only 2010 cpus that were bench marked bummer.

CPU Heatsink- You could get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065)   Its a motherfucking beast. Keeps my cpu cool as ice in summer. Make sure you put some Arctic Silver 5 paste. I never worked with liquid cooling, but if that's your plan, awesome.

SSD- HOLYY SHITTT thats a big ass size. The price is outrageous. I am waiting till they go down. What you can do is, get a SSD and install Windows on it. Then install applications and games on the traditional drive. Some games that take a while to load, can go on the SSD. That way your not wearing out the drive too much. Sure there is wear leveling and tech has got better, but SSD's use flash memory and who knows they could wear out quicker.

Case-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021)    That is the Antec 900 black Steel case. Features usb 3.0

Also http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107  this has a top loading HDD Dock. So instead of buying a external sata case, just insert the bare drive ontop of the case and bam your done. Good for format, data backups etc.


Power Supplies- The most efficient and durable power supplies are from Seasonic. What is your price range for the power supply?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Manufactory=1697&N=50001697&IsNodeId=1&SpeTabStoreType=0 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Manufactory=1697&N=50001697&IsNodeId=1&SpeTabStoreType=0)

1050Watts would be plenty for your entire build and you could add more stuff and you should still have enough wattage left over.

Video Card- Check here for benchmarks http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/01-3DMark11-C-Extreme,2933.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/01-3DMark11-C-Extreme,2933.html)

I heard good things about the Geforce 660TI, but the 7970 eats the latest geforce card.

Motherboard/Ram - I would also like input which one is the best to get.
 

Thanks for the recommendation on the CPU heatsink. I have heard good things about that coolermaster also. I might change over to air cooling as I am not really totally sold on the water cooling yet. Not sure if its REALLY necessary or if it has a higher amount of maintainace to it or not. Anyone have water cooling? Do you have to add more water to the reservoir or anything? If so, how often?

The only reason I am getting the SSD is the price you see is not the price i am buying it for. It comes out to be about $375 dollars which is still up there, but much better than 500. haha

Thank you for the recommendations on cases. I will look into it soon.

As for power supply, I don't really want to go insane with it but I also want a wattage and brand that is good enough to support my components such as my video card and what not. What psu would be good for some of the higher range video cards? Is there a certain wattage that if I go over I will be set? Thanks. I will report back when I have some more info on parts/my decisions.

Anyone else care to chime in and give your ideas? Thanks so far, this is great help Terrowrist
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: killermonkey on August 22, 2012, 02:13:10 pm
SSD is a waste (even at $375)... better off doing what Osaeed said, in fact that is exactly what I am doing this weekend!

I just bought this drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706

Which has the best price per gigabyte and name brand of any SSD size/manufacturer

Couple that with a terabyte drive for storing your massive movie files, game libraries, and shit (porn): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Now you only spent $190, doubled your storage space (and your lifespan), and you will not realize any performance drops. SSD's are really great at some things and REALLY BAD at a lot of others. Going pure SSD in a normal computing scenario will not yield greater performance (on average).

You can put the money you saved into a second video card to do SLI and 3D Vision, w00t

For video card I definitely recommend going mid-range (in the $170-$200 range) and doing SLI versus getting bleeding edge and only 1 card at $550+. You will realize greater performance in the long run.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Proxie on August 22, 2012, 02:19:32 pm
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Heat sink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089 (212+ is a great cheaper option)

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

SSD: See KM's post

HDD: See KM's post

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130785

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293

EDIT: That i7 is a waste unless you are doing crazy video editing and rendering, go with an i5 3570k for equal gaming preformance at 1/3rd the price.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: TriDefiance on August 22, 2012, 02:37:26 pm
Lol, I might have to get an i7 for crazy video editing and rendering.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Enzo.Matrix on August 22, 2012, 02:49:18 pm
If you get the 212 cooler make sure to get the 212 Evo as it is designed for socket 2011.  Else just get the Intel standard.

You dont need a PSU bigger than 750W
Corsair has some very nice cases,  check the 400 or 500

Video, grab a 660 ti.  They are the best bang for the buck.  they beat out a GTX 580

Careful with some of the lower end X79 mobos.  Some do NOT have a USB 3 header.  I have a sabertooth.

Ram, anything 1600MHz, it is quad so go for 4x4GB,  its cheap and if you get a mobo with 8 you can still easily upgrade.


FYI..  this is my day job.

Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: markpeterjameslegg on August 22, 2012, 04:41:27 pm
Holy crap CCsaint10, when I first started reading your post I thought, "Oh... He probably wants to build something similar to mine", that's a monster your planning on building there mate, fair play. Agree with KM on the SSD, done some reading up on this myself and it's too early days for this technology, better off sticking to SATA.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 23, 2012, 03:28:11 am
Hey, i got this email from newegg and thought it would come in handy for ya.

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Aug-0-2012/Coupon23/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL082312&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL082312-_-EMC-082312-Index-_-EOC-_-Case#Case
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 23, 2012, 04:44:22 pm
Oh yea, check this out too

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

anyone want to blow $2000 on a cpu?
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Proxie on August 23, 2012, 05:32:09 pm
Oh yea, check this out too

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

anyone want to blow $2000 on a cpu?

No thank you, Phenom 955 OC'd to 4.0GHz cost $100.  Next CPU will be Intel since AMD fucked up with the APU Dildozer series.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on August 24, 2012, 05:05:35 am
lol, my cpu is the 9th from the top. WINNING! Now to figure out what components to match it with, that will be the hard part.

@KM - can you give me an article or something that talks about what is bad about ssds? I have only heard/read everything about them being better than hard drives in every way. I would like to see some evidence from a credible source that supports what you are saying for my own learning purposes.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 24, 2012, 05:56:27 am
dont listen to KM, just go to your nearest geeksquad and get input from them!  ;D 
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: killermonkey on August 24, 2012, 07:08:57 am
This is what I read a while back. Extremely detailed, but you asked for it.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/inside-the-ssd-revolution-how-solid-state-disks-really-work/
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: mbsurfer on August 24, 2012, 01:05:16 pm
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139014

Such a sexy case.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Excidium on August 24, 2012, 01:15:42 pm
on the water cooing subject   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209054   I have this...its a dream Ill tell you.   User control panel that monitors your temps and you can control the fan and pump speeds. Maintenance ... ABSOLUTELY NONE whatsoever Id really go for this....  I use it with an AMD phenom II 1090t 6core and its oced to 4.0 and running about 24c idle and 48c load   nice temps!!!   This set up is the easiest water cooling to get and the safest.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 24, 2012, 03:01:41 pm
on the water cooing subject   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209054   I have this...its a dream Ill tell you.   User control panel that monitors your temps and you can control the fan and pump speeds. Maintenance ... ABSOLUTELY NONE whatsoever Id really go for this....  I use it with an AMD phenom II 1090t 6core and its oced to 4.0 and running about 24c idle and 48c load   nice temps!!!   This set up is the easiest water cooling to get and the safest.

Does it use distilled water or special type of liquid?
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Proxie on August 24, 2012, 11:48:46 pm
It's a closed-loop cooler, you don't change the liquid in them.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: killermonkey on August 25, 2012, 03:53:13 am
Just finished installing windows on my SSD.

HOLY FUCK

This is fast, I might update my previous statement..... maybe get a 250 GB SSD so you can store more (BUT NOT ALL) of your programs on the SSD. SSD's are still not necessary or even suggested for storage of more mundane files like videos, images, etc.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Enzo.Matrix on August 25, 2012, 08:41:18 am
....  lol @ KM

Anyway I am using a 240GB.  To be more effective in space you can still put steam on the SSD,  but for the games you don't use as often check out the Steam Mover
http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on August 25, 2012, 07:14:51 pm
Just finished installing windows on my SSD.

HOLY FUCK

This is fast, I might update my previous statement..... maybe get a 250 GB SSD so you can store more (BUT NOT ALL) of your programs on the SSD. SSD's are still not necessary or even suggested for storage of more mundane files like videos, images, etc.


LOL km, have you never used an SSD before? They are a thing of beauty when it comes to access time.
I am doing exactly that now after reading your article. It isn't really necessary to have ALL SSD, especially with the higher prone to failure rate. I'm just going to do 250gb SSD + 1tb western digital caviar black. Should be more than enough for me.

Excidium, thank you for the water cooling suggestion. I will have to buy a cooling solution anyways since the 3930k intel processor doesn't come with stock cooling. Might as well get this since it works well. Thanks!

EDIT: Updated the first post with current things I have been considering and changes. Everything is still tentative and I am more than willing to hear suggestions from you guys about the parts. Especially if performance and price is much better going for another solution. Anything I can do to get price down without compromising a substantial about of performance lose would be nice.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on August 25, 2012, 07:50:02 pm

Ram, anything 1600MHz, it is quad so go for 4x4GB,  its cheap and if you get a mobo with 8 you can still easily upgrade.



Enzo, in order to run the sabertooth in quad channel, is there any way of doing it with 8-12gb of ram? I don't need 16gb but I would still like to get the performance benefit with quad channel. I wouldn't mind talking to you on steam about this whole thing if you get a chance. Have some questions that I am sure you could help me with.

PS: When looking at ram, is there a significant performance difference or a better brand when comparing types of ram? I see a lot of people get the CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 and then the G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900). Should I even go for these brands? Is there one that would offer better price and performance or performance in general?
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: mbsurfer on August 26, 2012, 05:06:42 am
G.SKILL Ripjaws are cheap, and they have never failed me.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on August 26, 2012, 08:34:16 am
Does it provide any performance advantage over the corsair series? They are exactly the same price.

Currently there is a seasonic on sale with newegg. Anyone have this psu or do you guys think it will support/be good enough for my set up? Thoughts?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS082512&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS082512-_-EMC-082512-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17151087-L08C

Comes out in the end to be 119.99 but it ends today. Think it is worth snagging for the build?
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: killermonkey on August 26, 2012, 02:12:36 pm
G.SKILL Ripjaws are cheap, and they have never failed me.

That's what I got, A+ RAM

Make sure the Frequency is the same, RAM is priced base on marketing (GAMER RAM) and speed (1600 MHz) and type (DDR3). Don't buy RAM based on marketing. Buy RAM that matches your motherboards Front Side Bus (FSB) speed.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 26, 2012, 06:44:55 pm
yea
Does it provide any performance advantage over the corsair series? They are exactly the same price.

Currently there is a seasonic on sale with newegg. Anyone have this psu or do you guys think it will support/be good enough for my set up? Thoughts?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS082512&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS082512-_-EMC-082512-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17151087-L08C

Comes out in the end to be 119.99 but it ends today. Think it is worth snagging for the build?

Yea Seasonic is kickass!

1 x Main connector (20+4 Pin)
1 x 4-Pin ATX 12V
2 x 8-Pin EPS 12V
8 x Peripheral
8 x SATA
2 x Floppy
4 x PCI-E

Your all good to go!
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on August 26, 2012, 09:08:20 pm
Well shit. Missed that power supply deal before i could buy it. :( Anyone else have any recent coupon codes or discounts for any parts I am looking at? That coupon page above is expired now :(
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Proxie on August 27, 2012, 10:41:30 am
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

Fully modular, +12V@54A, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: major on August 27, 2012, 11:07:26 am
Don't skimp on a power supply. Size or quality. $2k machine can be fried in weeks. Gold cert. is also really good. Can go little smaller size with a good cert. But I always like to over build, so a quality 850/750 would be good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011


Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 27, 2012, 11:15:16 am
Don't skimp on a power supply. Size or quality. $2k machine can be fried in weeks. Gold cert. is also really good. Can go little smaller size with a good cert. But I always like to over build, so a quality 850/750 would be good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011




Seasonic kicks corsairs ass! HAHHAHA

no but seriously like major said,  a better quality power supply is required.. no one should buy a cheap ass dynex power supply.

Seasonic is quality stuff. Its like the mercede benz of power supplies. Excellent build quality.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: major on August 27, 2012, 03:33:05 pm
They all are good. OCZ is also very good, as they purchased PC Power and Cooling years back who was hands down best PSU company. As long as you stick to a good name brand, high cert and in general good reviews, you should be ok. I have a OK Antec 650w and its lasted me around 3 builds and still works perfect in my main gaming PC.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 27, 2012, 05:07:03 pm
As long as you stick to a good name brand, high cert and in general good reviews, you should be ok. I have a OK Antec 650w and its lasted me around 3 builds and still works perfect in my main gaming PC.

Indeed man!
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on August 28, 2012, 03:22:25 am
Well shit. Missed that power supply deal before i could buy it. :( Anyone else have any recent coupon codes or discounts for any parts I am looking at? That coupon page above is expired now :(

just got this

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Aug-0-2012/laborday28/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL082812&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL082812-_-EMC-082812-Index-_-E0-_-PromoWord
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on September 11, 2012, 07:13:02 am
Well guys, after about a month or so of looking for parts, looking for newegg sales, and just researching parts I have finally ordered all my components and they should all be here Thursday of this week. The final build differs in a lot of areas from what I put originally. I got A LOT of input from A LOT of different people. There were only a few products I didn't get a discount on (oh well), and I think it is a pretty screaming machine for the price I paid.

Here is the final build:

Corsair Carbide 300R Case - 49.99 after rebate - Arrived
Intel 520 SSD 240gb - 199.99 after rebate - Arrived
WD Caviar Black - 1TB - 89.99 after rebate - Arrived
Intel Core I7-3770k - 177.28
Corsair Vengeance 16gb DDR3 1866 - 92.69
LGE Blu-Ray reader/DVD-writer - 46.74
Arctic Silver Thermal Paste - 7.99
Rosewill 1000 WATT power supply - 103.99
Logitech G400 Wired Mouse - 38.24
HP Wireless Elite Keyboard v2 - 30.00
COOLER MASTER Hyper N 520 - 32.99
Asus Sabertooth - 239.99
Radeon 7950 XFX - 289.99 after rebate
Windows 7 Professional - 139.99

Total -

1,539.86

Anyways, my main point of posting back was just to thank everyone for helping out. I appreciated greatly the help I got from all of you. I will be reporting back after I build it to let you guys know how it performs. :)

Lol@paying more for graphics, ssd, and mobo than my cpu :)
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Proxie on September 11, 2012, 08:59:39 am
Going to make a build log?  We need to see your cable management.  :D
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on September 11, 2012, 09:30:13 am
Very nice build dude. That i7 is going to last you quite a while.

Get input from KM on how he did the OS and Apps to install on separate drives

I need to save up and upgrade as well. 

PROTIP: Put a pea size of Arctic Silver 5 on the center of the CPU  and just put the CPU heatsink right ontop of it. Why? if you spread it all over the cpu, and then the heatsink, your going to create air bubbles which will make the processor hot.

Im sure major and km agree???
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: major on September 11, 2012, 09:37:01 am
Very nice build dude. That i7 is going to last you quite a while.

Get input from KM on how he did the OS and Apps to install on separate drives

I need to save up and upgrade as well. 

PROTIP: Put a pea size of Arctic Silver 5 on the center of the CPU  and just put the CPU heatsink right ontop of it. Why? if you spread it all over the cpu, and then the heatsink, your going to create air bubbles which will make the processor hot.

Im sure major and km agree???


Correct. Even though I typically did the bag on finger technique.

http://teksyndicate.com/videos/how-apply-thermal-paste
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: killermonkey on September 11, 2012, 11:49:18 am
I use a razor blade to spread it evenly (1mm) on BOTH the processor and the heat sink. This ensures a liquid to liquid seal when you press down. Never had any trouble with it :-/
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: namajnaG on September 12, 2012, 07:51:08 pm
Well, One thing is sure, You won't have to upgrade until 2024 ;)
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on September 15, 2012, 10:05:04 am
Thanks for posting that article, KM; really is the only primer on SSDs you'll ever need to read, and by the end I was sold.
Finally caved in and picked up one of these (http://www.storagereview.com/kingston_hyperx_3k_ssd_review). (Reviews don't get much more extensive than that either. :P)
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on September 15, 2012, 08:29:39 pm
The whole thermal paste spread/no spread/bag over hand/dildo in ass arguments have gone on forever. It is really is all just up to personal preference. All methods have worked better or worse for everyone. Everyone and their brother says "this is the one true way" but I have seen it done all ways.

 As for me, I used a fine edge and moved it evenly along the top with a pea sized amount. My CPU currently is sticking out at a temp of around 29 Celcius or so, which is more than fine for me. I will do more extensive tests later, but as of right now this aftermarket headsink and my 7 fans (lol yes 7) are keeping this thing very cold. :) By the way, I am using cougar fans that have "hydro-bearings" so that they run almost completely silent. I also can control and make profiles for my fan speeds on scales in relation to temperature in my bios. This Asus sabertooth motherboard is so badass that it makes everything so easy and customizable. BEST motherboard I have ever seen and used. It also looks damn sexy with the thermal armor. :)

Will posts build pictures later.

@Proxie, my cable management is ok. Sadly my power supply supplemental connector was too short to route behind the board so i had to mount it over everything...really inconvenient, but oh well. As for the cables, I routed all of them behind the mobo that I could and then didn't really take the time to zip tie and make it all pretty. Not much point, imo, of going from behind and making them all pretty when all the airflow is in the front and no one is going to see the back anyways. Plus, if I ziptie them or something, I will have to undo them again next time i go in and move cables around. Seems like a bigger pain in the ass then worth.

Pictures to come :)
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: killermonkey on September 16, 2012, 02:02:40 am
Cougar fans? Dildo in ass?

Sounds like a party!
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on September 16, 2012, 04:07:09 am
Cougar fans? Dildo in ass?

Sounds like a party!

(http://imageshack.us/a/img31/2181/xmws8.gif)
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on September 16, 2012, 07:37:31 pm
LOL@KM. Yeeeeahhhh! Party! :D Just stress tested the GPU tonight. 15 minutes maxed out at 100% usage on 1920x1080 with full AA. Temps ranged from 35C idle to 74C Peak. Did extremely well. Will be stress testing the CPU tomorrow and will probably do a little overclocking as well after initial tests. Handling like a champ so far. Just want to stress test and make sure parts are not defective. :)
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Kratos on September 16, 2012, 07:44:54 pm
just make sure you dont perform any stress test on the ssd, since its delicate.

Just use a ssd smart tool to verify the integrity of the drive.

Have fun with your setup and please do post the cpu temp for both idle and load.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Proxie on September 17, 2012, 10:46:50 am
Make sure you run Prime95 after overclocking, I run it for 30 minutes per tweak and 8 hours once I'm at my goal.
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Mangley on September 18, 2012, 06:13:52 am
When do we get to see pics?
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Sergeant Kelly on September 26, 2012, 12:12:29 pm
Ah darn, it sucks that I missed this! I was building a computer at the same time as you were. :)

My buddy showed me this neat site that helps you index all your equipment and find the best deals for them. It really helped me build my system. I think I saved around $100 on deals.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/i8eR (I'll load it up with the gear I got.)

I made the mistake of getting a crappy mobo from that newer company ASRock that was DoA. I had to rebuild the dang thing again after getting the sabertooth. If I learned anything from this, it's that you should never skimp on mobo prices. You pay for what you get. When I contacted ASRock for support they mailed me a BIOS chip (https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/549752_10151182343343092_97701419_n.jpg) for whatever reason, too.

But yeah, when do we get to see pics of this beast machine?
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: major on September 26, 2012, 12:19:03 pm
Well install the bios chip ;)
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: Sergeant Kelly on September 30, 2012, 09:58:38 am
Unfortunately, I'm not even 100% sure it is a BIOS chip! ASRock's "support" consisted of them asking for the shipping manifest and then mysteriously sending me that little guy several weeks later with no explanation or forewarning.

Like Saint said though, those new armored ASUS mobos are both awesome looking and quite reliable!
Title: Re: Saint is Building a New Computer!
Post by: CCsaint10 on September 30, 2012, 08:01:02 pm
LOL, i keep forgetting to post pictures...uhhg. I have done a lot of stress tests and OC to 4.2ghz. Runs completely stable with all GPU, CPU, and Memory stress tests. Temps are REMARKABLE. This board runs sooooo cool in temperature and under load this system DOES NOT get hot AT ALL. Love it. Hopefully I can get around to it soon.

By the way, asus sabertooth z77 board is AMAZING. Highest quality board i have seen with the most customizable OC options and temp controls and everything. Can control all fans speeds, voltages, and everything is so complicated yet simplified to make sense. If you are considering getting this board, I HIGHLY recommend it. Best motherboard I have seen and it includes a 5 year warranty. Thermal armor is intense and works super well.