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Debriefing => Questions, Help, & How To's => Topic started by: JcFerggy on January 29, 2009, 11:10:05 pm

Title: Some Other Section
Post by: JcFerggy on January 29, 2009, 11:10:05 pm
On the main page of the wiki, there is a black section that I have labeled for the time being " Some Other Section". I would like everyone to voice their opinions on what should be put there. Wake suggested that the mod updates be put their, but the Main Page, the forums, and Mod DB giving us all the information, the section could be put to slightly better use.

Whatever suggestions you have, post them here and hopefully I can get something up their soon.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on January 30, 2009, 10:09:42 am
(Why would there be another section? I personally think the wiki is good the way it is; it already conveys a lot of useful information about the mod, it only needs to have all the pages completed. Great work reorganizing and giving it a new, fresh look, JcFerggy.) <<---don't mind this!

One thing, since I'm writing here: on the weapons section, when you see the weapons list, the Gold PP7's name is incorrectly written as Gold_PP7 (it's the underscore).

Note: 50th post!

One suggestion I can think of at the moment is GE:S dialect. For example, when you are killed by the Cougar Magnum, you say "You got Cougared". Another example: when someone is killed by the Klobb, he/she has been Klobbered (GE:S own word for pwned), and so on.

This came to me when I was playing TF2 this morning and talking to WNxSpydow. He suggested that we used GE:S dialect to say things online, and then I thought about making this suggestion here, so the credits for this should go to him instead of me; I'm simply the one conveying the idea and writing it on the board.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Spydow on January 30, 2009, 12:46:37 pm
(Why would there be another section? I personally think the wiki is good the way it is; it already conveys a lot of useful information about the mod, it only needs to have all the pages completed. Great work reorganizing and giving it a new, fresh look, JcFerggy.) <<---don't mind this!

One thing, since I'm writing here: on the weapons section, when you see the weapons list, the Gold PP7's name is incorrectly written as Gold_PP7 (it's the underscore).

Note: 50th post!

One suggestion I can think of at the moment is GE:S dialect. For example, when you are killed by the Cougar Magnum, you say "You got Cougared". Another example: when someone is killed by the Klobb, he/she has been Klobbered (GE:S own word for pwned), and so on.

This came to me when I was playing TF2 this morning and talking to WNxSpydow. He suggested that we used GE:S dialect to say things online, and then I thought about making this suggestion here, so the credits for this should go to him instead of me; I'm simply the one conveying the idea and writing it on the board.

Yeh...
If a joke is good=The LOL is not enough (;) WNxBlack-Eagle)
If a joke is bad=Lol another day (Hey JS clan :D).
If you're respawn killed=Live and let respawn (JS too).
If you're pwning=License to pwn
If a guy never die=Tomorrow never get pwn
If you killed a guy with slappers=For your ass only
If you want to say w00t=w007
If you want to say OMG=ZMG!
If you're killed by mines=Oh MINE god
If a guy is pwning all players he's a Pwnraker (or Pwnfinger?).
If a guy kills more than 3 players with slappers=Slappers are forever

C'mon guys, I want more ideas :P
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on January 30, 2009, 02:12:02 pm
It's CMag'd and Klobbed.  You're drifiting into nth generation slang, which is part of the cancer that killed /b/.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on January 30, 2009, 02:44:58 pm
It's CMag'd and Klobbed. 

I always heard Cougared and Klobbered, but if the correct way is the one you said, then it's better.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on January 30, 2009, 03:09:48 pm
There is no correct way. Video games are not serious business.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Doc.NO on January 30, 2009, 03:47:11 pm
(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8207/gabeog0.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on January 30, 2009, 04:06:42 pm
No more serious than exchange rates, Gabe.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on January 30, 2009, 04:58:04 pm
By correct I meant the most used.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: JcFerggy on January 30, 2009, 05:59:43 pm
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2220/threaddirectionlq5.gif)
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on January 30, 2009, 06:09:10 pm
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2220/threaddirectionlq5.gif)

Honestly, we have got to get back on topic, but you could at least tell me what you think of my idea.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: JcFerggy on January 30, 2009, 06:45:27 pm
The idea is unnecessary; since it says how you got killed by at the top anyway. Sayings like that are more appropriate for Achievements, but that is just my opinion.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on January 30, 2009, 06:51:24 pm
I'm sorry if I didn't made myself clear; what I meant to say was that the section should be dedicated to (and not only, of course) the explanation of some expressions used in-game, such as the ones referred above and some others, in order to help some new players understand the mod and the original game. I get a lot of people asking me what LTK stands for, for example. Also, I think you should include something like what's in a thread Viashino Cutthroat started, called VC's OpEd Column 90127.

http://forums.goldeneyesource.net/index.php/topic,2737.msg28619.html#new (http://forums.goldeneyesource.net/index.php/topic,2737.msg28619.html#new)

It would definitely be useful.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Storm101 on January 30, 2009, 10:55:33 pm
I agree with PPK. Sort of like a Goldeneye: Source for newbies section.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: JcFerggy on January 30, 2009, 11:04:10 pm
Ok, I might do that. Have a link to VC's rules, maybe make a page for acronyms, among other things.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Wake[of]theBunT on January 30, 2009, 11:57:15 pm
I think just put his rules on the wiki, cleaned up to be professional. He's the best player in the world and hes a dev, so its documentation really :P
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: major on January 31, 2009, 12:23:15 am
but there is no need to make up things just to put on there. Sure section saying what "GG" and like "AUG" means is fine, but to make up lingo that no one will use is.... Stupid.

Like having a part that says " I'm B a N or your moms F tonight". Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. And I've said that ingame multiple times.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Storm101 on January 31, 2009, 12:26:47 am
Who said we were going to make things up? "You got Cougared" may not have been a good example, but you get the point.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: JcFerggy on January 31, 2009, 12:31:18 am
Does that mean people should not refer to the Gold and Silver PP7's as the AuPP7 and the AgPP7 (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2122/88076139ew5.png)
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on January 31, 2009, 12:32:41 am
AuG.  AUG is a weapon not found in Goldeneye.

I'm buying a nectarine or your mom's frock tonight?

People shouldn't. But I do whatever I want.  If I didn't, people would get nervous. And rightly so.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on January 31, 2009, 01:55:33 am
Quote
Like having a part that says " I'm B a N or your moms F tonight".

I'm busting a nut on your moms fat tonight ?
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Wake[of]theBunT on January 31, 2009, 01:57:39 am
replace fat with fanny. In both incarnations of the word "fanny" this hits the motherload.

puns intended
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on January 31, 2009, 01:59:33 am
lmao
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on January 31, 2009, 11:30:04 am
people actually say fanny?
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: kraid on January 31, 2009, 12:46:50 pm
Hmmm.... i think adding a section like this to the wiki won't solve the problem of ppl don't understand thinks like LtK.
Do you ready anything about a mod before you go and join a server, or are you just downloading the mod and play it?
Even if it would be included in the MOTD most ppl won't read it. At least i sometimes get the impression when they start doing BS on our servers.
Things like AuG, AuPP7, AgPP7 doesn't need to be explained, you just need a little knowledge of chemistry to understand this and i think every1 who's allowed to play this game by the law of his/her country (18+ in germany and i think at least 15+ in other Countries), should have this knowledge.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on January 31, 2009, 04:15:17 pm
You seem to over-estimate the USican indoctrination system. Chemistry class is about surviving a term without eating the pretty blue crystals or catching on fire by reaching over a burner. 
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: killermonkey on January 31, 2009, 04:25:12 pm
Even if you DO happen to catch on fire, lets hope your lab partner is still awake to smack the shit out of your arm before you die.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on January 31, 2009, 04:57:51 pm
They'll be busy playing with mercury, eating the blue crystals, or drawing on the big periodic chart to make it look like a garden with a big sun over helium becuase the sun is where helium comes from.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on January 31, 2009, 05:10:39 pm
Who said we were going to make things up? "You got Cougared" may not have been a good example, but you get the point.

Yes, it wasn't the brightest example, nor the most adequate for the case. I was in a rush when I wrote that.

Hmmm.... i think adding a section like this to the wiki won't solve the problem of ppl don't understand thinks like LtK.
Do you ready anything about a mod before you go and join a server, or are you just downloading the mod and play it?
Even if it would be included in the MOTD most ppl won't read it. At least i sometimes get the impression when they start doing BS on our servers.

But people should read things before they download them, as they should read the MOTD before playing on a server; in fact, not reading the MOTD might get you banned (worst case scenario).
If we would assume people don't read this, or don't read that, or don't use certain weapons in-game, then we wouldn't make them and that simply doesn't make sense. The purpose of the wiki is to provide information about the mod and that's what my suggestion is doing; so that some moron doesn't go to a server and gets killed with one bullet and starts screaming (i.e typing in capital letters) that player A or player B is cheating because said player killed him with one shot. That way, they can read the server tags or the server name and identify the acronym. Note that LTK is merely an example.

Another thing that could also be included is some sort of rules of conduct. We all know it may sound futile, but we also want to contribute to a healthy gaming experience; we don't want people to go around like they do in CS (you know exactly what I mean with this example). You said that yourself, kraid.

It is all for now. Hope my suggestions were useful in some way.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on January 31, 2009, 05:17:06 pm
why not just smoke the blue crystals?
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on January 31, 2009, 05:24:12 pm
Well, they have no free hydrogen so they won't burn much. Heating would just make them anhydrous and they'd turn white-ish and make the air smell funny.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on January 31, 2009, 10:26:56 pm
just like meth!
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on January 31, 2009, 10:30:38 pm
(https://webspace.utexas.edu/warnerwt/picard-facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: killermonkey on January 31, 2009, 11:25:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Udru3Nzd4I

This is what the blue crystals do to you
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on January 31, 2009, 11:37:13 pm
Kool-aid girl is a retard for walking into that dump. She should be out getting some grown-up people clothing and getting a life, letting the cave-dweller be.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 01, 2009, 10:28:21 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Udru3Nzd4I

This is what the blue crystals do to you

Holy shit. People shouldn't even post this online. They should bother helping her and everyone on that girl's situation.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Cyan on February 02, 2009, 01:29:07 am
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2220/threaddirectionlq5.gif)

I agree with this post totally; however we might have taken a fork off the second path by now.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 02, 2009, 09:50:51 am
We have taken a right hand turn and have reached the gas station. Holy shit the prices are still high.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Sean [Baron] on February 02, 2009, 10:12:26 am
No their not. $1.49/gallon for me!
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 02, 2009, 10:23:55 am
Here in Portugal, the cheap bastards (Galp, BP, etc...) still sell petrol at about 1.2 euros (roughly) per liter, which is expensive compared to the prices we had when the oil prices were on an all-time high (the 140 dollars a barrel, remember?). They refuse to get the prices down. Wish our government still owned the biggest part of Galp, the major gas company here in Portugal...
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Sean [Baron] on February 02, 2009, 10:39:05 am
Oh yes, I remember. I was paying $4.23/Gallon (USD) not too long ago. Glad it finally came down, but its funny the economy around the world is now suffering too.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 02, 2009, 11:13:27 am
Really funny indeed, really funny indeed. Specially when the money for those companies has to come from our pockets and in exaggerated amounts. Although diesel has lowered the price and is now being sold below 1 euro per liter (that's my car's fuel btw).
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on February 02, 2009, 11:18:23 am
It's all just and adjustment.

Correct for inflation and fuel hasn't changed much. If anything, it's been running like water for a long time.  The whole world is "suffering" because the whole world has been living on credit for the last half-century or more in one way or another.  Stupid loans, credit cards, casual bankruptcy as a way of life, bailouts, the whole thing is building without a foundation, and now happens to be when the toppling starts.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Sean [Baron] on February 02, 2009, 11:24:51 am
Inflation yes, but when they don't inflate the average persons wages, people dont see; "Well gas is the same price as it was 50 years go -- just add inflation". Thats the problem.

The cost of just about everything is going up, but peoples wages are barely raising.

Anyways, lets get this back on topic.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 02, 2009, 11:25:40 am
Yes, we are guilty for the economic crisis we live in as of now. What I say is that they still sell gas at roughly the same prices as they sold when the barrel had its price in 140 dollars. And they cannot come with the excuse they bought the oil at a high price and now they have to sell it at an high price or they would make up for the investment. They are one of the most profitable companies here, if not the most profitable and other companies that work in this area have already lowered their prices and they also bought the oil at high prices. the real problem is on the people who run it; all they want to see is profit rising, no matter what. That is one of the problems of the world nowadays.

We are going a bit off topic here, so let's just get back on it. My apologies for it. I was the one who started this.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on February 02, 2009, 11:33:46 am
What exactly is on topic? Meth-heads?  Meth heads can only be cured with fire.  The economy can be fixed by not acting like meth heads.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 02, 2009, 11:39:12 am
What exactly is on topic?

It's the blank section of the wiki. And yes, if we don't act like meth heads the economy will be fixed.

ONE HUNDRED!
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: JcFerggy on February 02, 2009, 03:35:44 pm
I find it hilarious that you guys managed to go even more off topic by the picture I posted to try and get everyone back on topic.

Anyway, the original reason for the topic was to fill in the blank spot on the wiki home page. So far all we have come up with is basically "GE:S For Dummies".
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Jeron [SharpSh00tah] on February 02, 2009, 04:14:39 pm
One section should deffinately be on not smoking meth, or cooking it for that matter....
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 02, 2009, 05:09:45 pm
One section should deffinately be on not smoking meth, or cooking it for that matter....

That should stay in the cheats section.

ON-TOPIC: I noticed that in the wiki, under the "Tutorials" category, there is a wrong title. It reads "Entry Placement" and should read "Entity Placement".
As of now I have no other ideas for the blank section of the wiki, just felt like pointing the error out.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Sean [Baron] on February 02, 2009, 05:47:22 pm
GE:S for dummies, a guide to playing GES... type thing would be good. VC has written up a few good articles already that would fit right in there for people to read.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: JcFerggy on February 02, 2009, 06:45:29 pm
GE:S for dummies, a guide to playing GES... type thing would be good. VC has written up a few good articles already that would fit right in there for people to read.
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2048/goldeneye2lk4.jpg)
Something like this?
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Sean [Baron] on February 02, 2009, 06:50:39 pm
Yes
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 02, 2009, 07:34:37 pm
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2048/goldeneye2lk4.jpg)
Something like this?

Bloody brilliant!

You should actually make a book with that title, after that cover.
"The Klobb is a very unique weapon", it doesn't do any damage, only tickles you opponents.

Quote
only tickles you opponents.

And here is one idea for the German Low-Violence Edition.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on February 02, 2009, 07:50:20 pm
Der Klobb appleisen der unterarmen fingerpoken auf du combattercomraden. Achtung! Die eyeserfürseein nicht healengruben, appleisen der Klobb mit carefulneß!
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 02, 2009, 08:51:10 pm
Don't have a clue about what you said, but the word "Klobb" doesn't remind me of any thing good in that gun's favor.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on February 03, 2009, 02:43:15 am
The beta (ß) sign at the end also gets me wondering.
(Not of anything in particular)
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: VC on February 03, 2009, 03:01:04 am
That's not a beta. ß is a sharp s, β is a beta. Note the tail.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Rodney 1.666 on February 03, 2009, 03:31:17 am
...And that's about the only thing I've learned all day.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Sergeant Kelly on February 03, 2009, 06:04:41 am
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2048/goldeneye2lk4.jpg)
Something like this?
What?! Are you saying my cradle tactics are flawed?

 Blasphemy.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: Ryan [Saiz] on February 03, 2009, 08:11:14 pm
What?! Are you saying my cradle tactics are flawed?

 Blasphemy.

I know huh those tactics work for both of us in testing though so there must be misinformation happening somewhere in the loop.
Title: Re: Some Other Section
Post by: PPK on February 03, 2009, 09:15:10 pm
After these last two posts of self-mockery about cradle-related tactics, I think something related could be included in the "Some Other Section" of the wiki: tactics to play the maps, which, if you think, is useful for those who never played the mod. That way, they wouldn't spend their first rounds in GE:S getting owned for not knowing their way around and how to behave when opening doors, for example (when opening doors, don't stand around waiting for it to open; keep moving around to make yourself a harder to hit target).

I've seen a few people standing around waiting for the door to open, and not only new players (signaled by the "GEPlayer" banner).