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beta 1.5? wtf leak? or fake( my first post)

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Semedi:

--- Quote from: oboe on August 11, 2007, 10:14:55 am ---Boris says there aren't any viruses in it, but it doesn't change the fact that it'd be stupid to download it.

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Certainly a trustworthy individual  ::)

trezza:
did these guys expect to get praised for that pff l.o.s.e.r.s

Mark [lodle]:
We were afaid it will come to this. Well you can thank boris because for the last 4 weeks we have been sorting this shit out instead of working on the mod and now its even more delayed. The version he got (oh btw he didnt hack nothing, he used a keylogger to gain access to a beta testers email account, so i would trust any thing from him at all). was a build wich had alot of prototypes in it or stuff we are planing to add. It hasnt been updated in a while and you will find many major bugs in it (i think it has the suicide crash bug in complex) and almost all things are not finished. We havnt even imported any of the new models with have shown you in updates.

Bottom line is we dont care if you download it (be warned it may have nasty things in it) but if you want to play golden eye source that is bug free. Wait to beta 2.

Also the funny thing is he only got access to the mod content files so how is boris going to make it open source with out source code?

Mark [lodle]:
i lol'd so hard at that i almost fell of my chair. Boris has been trying to do this ever since he wasnt allowed (rejected is a better word) from being a beta tester. He has been a pain to devs ever since and your lucky i dont ban you on the spot for just being friends with him (yes he is that anoying). There is no exscues for his behavour except that he is a serial pest. Just look at other forums hes on and you will find out why.

There is no reason ever to hack a mod. WE the dev team put our free time in to this so you can play. If people are going to try and steal it why should we bother?


--- Quote ---Why would you sort out a leak instead of work on the mod?
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If some one stole your bank password would you not worry about it?


--- Quote ---You hate, and want people to hate something over a bunch of copied data!
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Why would we want this? We hate boris cause he is anoying and he has all ways been an ass to devs full stop.


--- Quote ---Instead of perma banning him
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LOL he was permed banned well before this (has been for a year or so now). If he grows up we might unban him but i dont see that happining.


--- Quote ---If there weren't viruses in it, what is stupid about it.
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Lol and you must know boris so well ....

Konrad Beerbaum:
The reason stuff like this is detrimental is because it takes the focus away from development.  While we do this for fun in our free time, we take it very seriously, we have to if we want it to be professional quality.

The fact is that security is a necessary precaution that we have to take due to the actions of certain indivuals who lack maturity.  You say that stealing an unreleased beta is no big deal? It is, and here's why.  How did they get that beta? By tricking people into installing viruses, and then accessing secure file servers.  What if they got pissed off and deleted a bunch of files as well? What if that person had credit card information stolen due to the keylogger, or had their machine crash because of it.  Yea, those are worst case scenarios, but we would be negligent if we didn't try to protect against them.  And if someone has no qualms about giving people viruses and accessing secure servers, whos to say they won't do that stuff. It is naive to say they never would. 

So our coders have to waste time coding in safeguards and setting up file security, and the hassle that all of us have to go through to follow security protocals that slows down the interaction with the team. And when we only have 1 active coder, thats time that could be spent trying to fix bugs.  We have to waste time trying to figure out how they did it, and we have to worry about the beta testers integrity, which is an atmosphere we just don't want.   

So yea, it is a pain in the ass.

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