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[Conmore]

Every time I got on it's a playerless wasteland, and we don't have bots yet. I'm going to make a YouTube video once I get a microphone, showing some maps and gameplay, and add some links to ModDB, Steam, this Forum, . You guys have put way too much work into this for it to stand here and have empty servers on and off like this. Even though I'm too young to remember the original game, (15) This has made me get into it, and I think this and the '97 version are so much better than Halo and CoD, which is why I think it has huge potential to have a lot of players. Also, the fact that you're doing this all for no pay, I know for legal reasons, amazes me. Sorry for getting off-topic, but I was wondering if there is anything I could do to help this get some attention. Also, Hi, I'm new to the forums, but not GE: S.

[terps4life90]

I agree with this man. It is absolute bullshit why there aren't a shit ton of players. People bitch about it being remade the right way and when it finally is no one notices except a small community.

[Conmore]

Would you guys care if I put it on Reddit? We can get a good playerbase out of them. The reason I ask is because Reddit might have a reputation.

[namajnaG]

Why would we mind? I'm pretty sure all of us would love to see a more active player base, I personally say feel free to do all the publicity you wish.
As long as you keep douchebags out, I'm fine with that.

[Wake[of]theBunT]

Every single one of the fans and followers of this mod can help, and in big ways. *this mostly relates to when 4.2 is out* Don't burn yourselves out just yet it may be wasted effort.

1. Tell everyone you know that there is this cool game you play all the time. (this requires you to be playing it all the time so they notice on steam)

2. Have fun in servers. Remember ge64 was mostly for fun with your friends.

3. "digg" our posts or at least participate with a comment if one of our media posts are on digg.com (goes for all outlets we distribute to... google+/facebook/twitter

4. Seed the current release' torrent when you are asleep.

5. Post once a day on our forums.

6. Develop a skill over the coming two years and join the cause.

7. Convince a friend who knows Python to code a third-party co-op, mimicking the single player missions (possible with upcoming 4.2 release)

8. Trade your want to give us a donation, for your time in helping us show the world how solid our game is, how enjoyable and re-playable. (they didn't get the memo yet)

9. Most important: Steam is free to download and our mod is free to download and the sdkbase is free as tf2 is free-play enabled. This wasn't the case 18 months ago at our last release. Players no longer need a purchased game to play our modification.



Things that don't help us;

1. Being elitist in game, and turning away noob players.

2. Negative positives... "I've been playing goldeneye source lately, it's very addictive, but there are no players"

3. Complaining about no players existing, and doing nothing personally to help fix that.

We are not strictly in charge of how exposed we get. a PR from us is likely to be only a legitimizor that we are professional, not a way to have a playerbase. That comes down to both elements. The team, and the players all providing the positive vibes and environment to create a playerbase that grows; instead of the peak and diminish.

[PPK]

7. Convince a friend who knows Python to code a third-party co-op, mimicking the single player missions (possible with upcoming 4.2 release)

I was thinking about that just the other day, except it would play out like Assault from UT, though I lack the skills to code it. But I am starting to map (baby steps, baby steps).

I saw you in-game today, Conmore. I also remember playing with some guy that had the r/ tag on his name.

[Conmore]

I just put it up on Reddit  http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/uyd1i/so_while_were_waiting_for_black_mesa_lets_play_a/


The reason I mentioned Black Mesa is so people know it's a Source Mod, and seriously, who ISN'T looking forward to Black Mesa. I still like this though, for actually releasing.

[Wake[of]theBunT]

The problem with framing your reddit post like you have is it poses the idea people need to know about us. Like we are unknown or even competing with the corporate remakes out there.

I don't think that is the case. We had a reddit post come out with our 4.1 release (december 10) and people even then weren't scratching their heads as to who we are. The simple fact is everyone who knows mods, and is over 21 knows about us, that we've been around for many years, and they are not playing; at least regularly.

Better would be to remind the populus who tastes us once that they should again because of our improvements patch to patch.

We are a veteran mod, not a struggling unknown scrap.

[markpeterjameslegg]

Already done the YouTube thing buddy:-


http://www.youtube.com/user/markpeterjameslegg?feature=mhum


But the more the merrier.

[Conmore]

Already done the YouTube thing buddy:-


http://www.youtube.com/user/markpeterjameslegg?feature=mhum


But the more the merrier.

What I meant was something telling about the game, and listing game modes and stuff, while I play the game. It'll be happy raging.

[markpeterjameslegg]

What I meant was something telling about the game, and listing game modes and stuff, while I play the game. It'll be happy raging.

Ah... I see, good idea, be better to play the game modes individually and do a video for each, but I would recommend waiting for 4.2 and using Bots as it would be a lot easier to demonstrate with a bot set on easy.
Any videos you create I'll be happy to upload to my channel as well.

[namajnaG]

What I could think about is make a video demonstrating and explaining all gamemodes (Excluding Deathmatch and similar gamemodes that we find in every multiplayer FPS) with camera angles varying from Free Look around a game in progress and first-person gameplay as well, Have a commentary talking about the game's objectives, Since we've already got Mark's videos showing several maps, We should also do a few gameplay videos with the commentary of someone that explains the mod's history and what the GE:S Team intends to bring to life. Video tutorials on how to get started on the good foot in the game could also be good, Such as game tips, Explaining game mechanics, Etc.
The possibilities are quite endless.

[Wake[of]theBunT]

Anyone with dedicated and professional results from an initiative which educates and entices new players to us could also eventually apply to be a community manager or in the PR department if a new position came up.

[Conmore]

Ah... I see, good idea, be better to play the game modes individually and do a video for each, but I would recommend waiting for 4.2 and using Bots as it would be a lot easier to demonstrate with a bot set on easy.
Any videos you create I'll be happy to upload to my channel as well.

That sounds like a great idea, maybe we could do a dual commentary type thing. If you have a mic.

[kraid]

I think the best way of doing this is to record the video of a match at first, cut together the essential stuff and do the voice over afterwards.
Maybe writing down what you're going to say/show in the video could help, too.

That way there will be short and easy to understand clips instead of long videos with lots of repetative situations and a voice actor who's distracted by playing and speaking at the same time.

Some of the less complicated gamemodes (DM, TDM, LTK) could be easily combined into one video (just for beeing complete) while the more complex ones might be better off with a own clip.

I'd say there should be a new thread for assembling the storyboards for the clips.
So the whole community has the chance to get involved by posting suggestions.
Either in text only with a description what to see in the scene, or even better with a ingame screenshot and text for the voice actor.

There could be also a video "Goldeneye Source: Getting Started" which walks you through the process of downloading, installing, starting GES for the first time, doing some vital configurations etc.

While some might think now: hey that's easy, no need for a tutorial like this, some threads on the forums showed that a few ppl still have issues with this kind of stuff.
(e.g. why are there only two servers in my list? or I downloaded & installed the mod, but when i start it shows the valve logo and crashes)
Also a good oportunity for takling about the stuff that can be configured in the advanced options, like the automatic gun switch or disabling dynamic lights on explosions for performance reasons and many more.

As for voice acting, it doesn't have to be russian accent or something, just a nice and friendly sounding voice with good and easy to understand english. If there's an accent at all, i'd prefer a British one anyway.
If this would be an official Game with money in the back i'd really like to see john cleese doing the voice acting.
(only know his german voice, but it should be much similar to the original one i think).

Beeing able to record your voice on good quality with a real microphone, not only a cheap headset, would be also a huge advantage.

[major]

I have a nice microphone, so if any help is ever need I can try to help.

[Jonathon [SSL]]

I'd say I can help (I have a fancy ass condenser mic and audio interface for music stuff) but I got jaw surgery two weeks ago and still sound a bit funny when I talk.


If someone wants to shoot video/record voice I'll edit it together, though.

[namajnaG]

I can do my part on recording video clips for sure.

[Conmore]

Guys, thank you for the offer, but I don't need help with recording, editing, or anything like that. Now if someone who's somewhat close to Texas wants to host a LTK server so I can get a good connection, you would be a HUGE help, and would definitely be credited in the video. With recording, I've been working on a script, and on Notepad, I'm keeping notes of things to say while I'm playing. Now here's my plan of action.


Show the menu of the screen, introduce myself, then join a game. We need to get a lot of people on this server to make the game look good. I will show all the characters quickly, then show the map while on spectate for about 10-15 seconds, while quickly talking about the "history" of the mod. Then I will join the game, and talk about LTK, and say the the other gamemodes, giving a brief overview of them. Then I will talk about achievements, and other small things, and eventually wrap up the video by giving thanks to whoever hosts the server, and to the amazing community that was very willing to help me.


To all the people giving advice, my plan for recording is to record one live, see if it works, and if it doesn't I'll do it with pre-recorded clips. Thank you for the advice, I've been testing my mic in a quiet room, and it sounds great, so it'll work out. Now this will be a vague overview, and in the video I will make sure to mention that the channel I'm uploading it to (markpeterjameslegg) has some maps from the game on it.  If they like it, I will do full videos on all the gamemodes, and maybe one video about weapons, so we don't have to cram everything in a 15 minute video. Also, I MIGHT put it in 1080p, and will definitely have it in 720p. It depends on how markpeterjameslegg feels about it.


The community on these forums is the best I have ever seen, you guys don't bash on me about my age, which is rare, and have been a really big help. I thank you for that. Also, thanks for encouraging me to do this and giving your ideas and help. Stay Gold(enEye)

[namajnaG]

You don't need an extremely good connection to be able to play GE:S well, As long as your ping doesn't go over 100, You're supposed to have a good experience. I'm not sure if we have any Texas servers around anymore, But I do think we had some before. The TG/1138 server should do just fine.

And besides, There's no reason to judge on age, As long as you act mature towards the community, The community will act mature towards you. This does not mean we can't be silly, Of course. 'Glad you enjoy your stay.

Count me in. I'll be linking the videos on my YouTube channel as well, I've got a fair amount of subscribers (~200.), So it might attract a bit of attention.
If I get a bit of free time soon enough, I'll be doing video tutorials on how to install the game and how to get started properly.

[Conmore]

Count me in. I'll be linking the videos on my YouTube channel as well, I've got a fair amount of subscribers (~200.), So it might attract a bit of attention.
If I get a bit of free time soon enough, I'll be doing video tutorials on how to install the game and how to get started properly.

I was about to make a how to video just now, maybe you could make a guide for noobs we can link in the description.

[Proxie]

VC made a good guide for GE:S 2 years ago, maybe you could make a video covering each topic and adding to it.

http://forums.geshl2.com/index.php/topic,2737.0.html

[markpeterjameslegg]

My Goldeneye Source videos have now had 3552 views in total, that's not bad advertising me thinks. Looking forward to showing off 4.2 very much.

[Conmore]

I did a test on recording. It's kinda laggy, however I will get a new graphics card in 2-3 months, so anyone else should go for it.