Oooh... Too much negativity, don't really get this post, I haven't noticed any bugs that weren't in Beta 4, and the ones that were in Beta 4 just weren't worth mentioning, it didn't detract from my enjoyment at all. Games have bugs, the original Goldeneye had plenty, that didn't stop it becoming an amazing game, in fact you grew to love it for it's flaws. As for the ladder issue on Caverns, I have run into that same problem before, so I just don't go that way anymore, there's more than one way down there anyway.