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major:
Can't fix your Ram. Since you have a 2gb stick, it has nothing to run with. See the the two 1gb sticks can share a memory task(dual channel).

hmmm since you have the 2gb stick in Bank1. I believe the two 1gb stick should be in Banks 2 and 4. Dual channel is supposed to be every other bank. (usually color coated. red with red, blue with blue). So maybe take a picture of your memory in your case, then should be able to tell you if you need to move a stick.

Rodney 1.666:
2GB in Bank1, 1GBs in Banks 3 and 4. (As per the colour-coding.)

Case shot added to give an idea of air flow as well, and graphics card... just 'cause; I'll take anything.

Images taken before moving the RAM.
(Left to right in picture: Empty, 1GB, 1GB, 2GB.)
(Left to right now: 1GB, 1GB, empty, 2GB.)


~Edit:


--- Quote from: Rodney 1.666 on July 19, 2010, 11:57:04 pm ---[...]
About two hours of play:



--- End quote ---

Update to say that that I got the same figures within a couple degrees from a little less than an hour of play, if that helps any.

Edit for typo on "couple" saying "coupe". I'm anal like that.

Rodney 1.666:

--- Quote from: killermonkey on July 17, 2010, 02:27:23 pm ---I suggest a quick and dirty upgrade of the graphics card. I have a Geforce 8800 GTX 640MB and it runs everything like a dream (especially GE:S). Obviously, make sure your graphics drivers are up to date and i would also investigate your motherboard northbridge drivers if you are running nForce.

So yah: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134082

Geforce 9800 GT w/ 1GB RAM for $90 (after mail-in rebate)

--- End quote ---

Well I went with KM's (and most other's in-game) advice, excluding the 9800 GT part.
I went batshit-overkill and went to our local hardware abode of awesomeness and bought meself a GeForce 460 GTX, 700MB, "Overclocked", for $210.00.
I also needed a new power supply to power the beast...

And guess what. Seriously, take a wild guess.
Well, I can run everything at almost max, and get the same performance as the 8500: average 50 frames.
It's conclusive that something is seriously fucked somewhere.

So, my current to-do list is:

* Run a diagnostics tool of some kind.
* <Forum advice here>
*
--- Quote from: Enzo.Matrix on July 17, 2010, 07:13:57 pm ---Sometime a fresh format and an install of the best running drivers is all you need.
--- End quote ---


So yeah... any and all help is still greatly appreciated...

Good news is, if I have to resort to a new setup altogether (which I really don't want to do), I'll certainly have a card for it.

I'll update the post with full GFX specs when I get back.
Updated.

jjmusicnotes:
Hey Rodney -

First off, the GTX 460 is a nasty card - awesome pic!  Even at that resolution, the 460 should be eating all of those games for breakfast at max settings - GE:S shouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

After reading this thread to catch up, I have a couple questions and a statement for you:

Q.)
What do you have for a motherboard?

Do you have more than 1 PCI-E x16 slot on your board?

What is your PSU?

What do you have for a case?

S.)
When looking at your system specs, this caught my eye:

"AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz"

I bring this up because it's about 6 sub-families of processor behind where the current AM3 sockets are (behind Athlon II's & Phenom II's,) so it could be bottle-necking your sweet GPU.


Unless GE:S is somehow causing you to hit your RAM ceiling, I seriously doubt your RAM as anything to do with anything.  Even if it's still DDR2-800Mhz - which I kind of suspect, because you have an AM2+ socket.

All of your temps (from your old setup) look fine, so none of your components seem to be over-heating.  How are the temps with your 460?

Chances are, if temps really were the issue, you wouldn't get poor FPS while gaming, your drivers / card would just crashes with either artifacts, grey-screen, blue-screen, or black-screen.  If they were really bad your card might not even function all together.

The reason why I asked about the 2nd PCI-E x16 slot on your board is that on most mid-range boards with more than 1 PCI-E x16 slot, you'll typically see the primary slot at x16 and the secondary slot running at x8.  If you have your GPU in the x8 slot, that could also be a reason for the poor FPS.

Even though I ask about your PSU, I seriously doubt it - chances are if you were over-drawing your PSU while your GPU was under load during games, you would've fried your rig by now - not had poor FPS.  Just curious though.

To be honest, out of all of the components, I suspect your CPU the most unfortunately.  Especially considering how new the 460 is.  If it is your CPU that is the culprit, your mobo should support an AM3 socket (since it's AM2+.)  That being said, you would more than likely have to do a BIOS flash, and even then you might encounter a greater likelihood of having BSOD's since there are known compatibility issues with AM2+ sockets and AM3 chips.

That being said, I couldn't find a release date on your CPU, so I'm a little unsure of when it came out.  Depending on the release date, we could have either found the cause of your issues, or that I'm a big fat liar.

One or the other. :P

Kratos:
damn you guys have slow pcs   ;)  ;D ;D

I got a laptop with a Intel Pentium 3 running at 1.2GHZ single core

ATI Radeon 16MB Sdr ram 100MHZ core clock

256MB SDram memory

4200rpm 40GB HD

Running Arch Linux with LXDE i just setup yesterday and runs great on this laptop

I prob get .5 fps in goldeneye source with those specs  I have lol.

Seriously, i would check your hard drive with HDD Sentinel, to make sure its functioning right.

Also, run ccleaner with custom settings and defrag the pc using Mydefrag.

Do some optimization and see if that helps.

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