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thrakx:
Hey guys didn't know who to talk to or anything, but I've been working on some L4D2 stuff based off The Complex layout, and doing it all alone has been a process.  Anyway I recently ran into gesource and I was hoping to port one of the maps into a versus/scavenge map for Left4dead2, but I didn't want to just rip the files without asking or anything. Soooo.... Here's me asking and if I can't ask from here maybe some one can point me into the right direction.  I don't want to do anything fancy, just port the map over in the same spirit as the L4D badwater basin map or the CSS dust map for L4D2. Anyway thanks in advance guys!

Jonathon [SSL]:
Well you can certainly use the layout of Complex as a base to make your own map from scratch, but we don't want you using any of our content, i.e. decompiling our maps and stealing geometry, models, textures, etc. If you make the whole thing yourself then more power to you.

thrakx:
well thanks for the reply, I am currently working on a map based upon the complex, the only thing I really wanted was the textures. 

thrakx:

--- Quote from: Jonathon [SSL] on June 21, 2010, 12:21:42 am ---Well you can certainly use the layout of Complex as a base to make your own map from scratch, but we don't want you using any of our content, i.e. decompiling our maps and stealing geometry, models, textures, etc. If you make the whole thing yourself then more power to you.

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Ok this has been bugging me more and more since I first read it.  I couldn't put my finger on it at first but now I'm like wait a sec here bud- I don't wanna be a jerk about this but if you really want to get into it at all, you guys ripped off this WHOLE damn project from RARE. Do you have permissions for that? I don't know if you do or not, but i doubt you have P. Brosnans permissions to use his likeness.

I'm just saying, that for you to tell me what you told me, is a pretty obvious hypocritical statement. Yes, I CAN use the basic layout and make it from scratch. I have been. However the geometry is the same across the board so how could I steal that? I never wanted to steal your stuff guys, but quite obviously you stole it first, so what gives?

Just to note, if in fact you guys DO have permissions from Microsoft,the Flemming people, AND the actors, then my bad, I just wanted to point a few things out.

Jonathon [SSL]:
We didn't steal everything. All models, textures, and world geometry is created by and owned by their creators, the members of the Goldeneye: Source development team. Nothing in our mod has been taken straight from Rare or anyone else who originally made it, our Bond model isn't even based directly on Peirce to avoid copyright infringement. When I say "layout" I mean the position and locations of all the different areas of the the map and how they're connected; the blueprint of the map. Feel free to use that, but we just ask politely that you don't use our textures, world geometry, music, or models, as those were all created by our developers for the mod, and have nothing to do with the original content and therefore belong to us. Wake can probably come by and explain better whenever he comes along if what I'm saying isn't clear.

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