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The Beatles pwn j00!:
I think it's plenty on topic. But I see what you mean. I'll make a different thread.

Kratos:

--- Quote from: JessEH [The Beatles pwn j00!] on August 23, 2009, 05:40:43 am ---Muhammad greatly misunderstood the truth of the Trinity. It is not three gods, but God in three. Islam claims that the way to salvation is obeying the Five Pillars and through good deeds, yet Christ clearly explained that salvation cannot be obtained through men and their deeds. Salvation is a free gift to those who place their faith in the Son. The only way for Islam to be the true religion is if the Gospels were corrupted by men, which Islam does indeed claim. Yet all scholarly evidence shows that nothing of doctrinal significance was changed before, during, or after Muhammad's time. And do you really think God would let His everlasting Word be corrupted on such a grand scale?

There are hundreds of prophecies in the Hebrew Scripture that tell of the coming Messiah. Jesus fulfilled every one of these. There is no prophesy telling of Muhammad. The couple that Muslims cling onto are misunderstood, and are speaking of Christ or the Holy Spirit. God clearly told us how we would be rescued from our fall, and Jesus matches this plan point for point. If His Words are truly understood, the idea of a prophet coming after Christ makes no sense. Islam is at odds with God's Word. It is built from corruption. The only prophecy that could relate to Muhammad is Matthew 24:11, “and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people…”

The truth is in The Bible, and will be realized by those who seek it with all their being. But you may also find this enlightening:

http://www.gotquestions.org/five-pillars-Islam.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Muslim-Christian.html

Excuse me if you think that I am out of line in doing this here, but I had to try. If you are willing, we could respectfully discuss this.

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I take this totally in a different way.

1st. what I want to say is I was told that the bible's writing is always changing. Some person is add more stuff to the bible. Look at the Quran, it has the same information since the first Quran was revealed. Not a single letter has been altered in anyway.

2nd. "Islam is at odds with God's Word. It is built from corruption. "  bleh so freaking bullshit. Islam is NOT CORRUPTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are tons of shit I can say but I wont because its the month of Ramadan and I dont want to be stack up my sins.

The Beatles pwn j00!:
No need to get angry.

Perhaps we shouldn't discuss this. English is obviously not your native tongue, so it is very likely that we would misunderstand each other often.

Kratos:

--- Quote from: JessEH [The Beatles pwn j00!] on August 24, 2009, 12:50:54 pm ---No need to get angry.

Perhaps we shouldn't discuss this. English is obviously not your native tongue, so it is very likely that we would misunderstand each other often.

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Sorry if it looked as I was angry. I was just trying to tell you what I believe. Im also hungry and thirsty LOL!.

Knowing about other religions is very cool.

jjmusicnotes:
Actually, it's quite remarkable how similar Islam and Christianity are.  The variables between the two religions include:

Figurehead: Jesus / Muhammad

Osaeed, correct me if I'm wrong, but the distinction between the two is that Christians believe that Jesus/God are the same person, and Muslims believe that Muhammed was just a messenger for God's word?

As I understand it the Qu'ran was never translated into any other language because the Muslims did not want to lose any of the meaning associated with the changes.

Apart from that, as I understand it, the Qu'ran and the Bible share 34 of the 37 prophets?  I'm not sure on the number exactly, but I know that they're mid-thirties, and that they're very close.

Also, from what I understand, Islam is not corrupt at all - many of the Muslims that are often stereo-typed are the most dramatic, fundamentalist Muslims.  Islam cannot be faulted for those types of people - every religion has them.  Anyone ever heard of Opus Dei?

Talking about religion is cool, bashing people about religion is not.

Osaeed, have you ever taken that big long pilgrimmage?  I forget the name of it, but it's like three or four days long?  Just curious. :)

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