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[double0killa]

is it just me, or does the cradle and archives lag more than other maps. It seems when 10 or so get on those two maps, they lag. Maybe its just me but no other map unless there are 20 or so people playing does this.

Also i dont know if anyone else has noticed this but all of these guns have CRAZY RANGE. no way should someone shooting a DK5 on a cradle tower should be able to hit what looks like a black dot on their screen way across the map. Whats the point of having sniper rifles when any submachine, full auto, and even pistol has THE EXACT SAME RANGE. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a sniper rifle.

[jjmusicnotes]

Very true, it's all too easy on an LTK server to just hide out in one of the far towers and snipe people off with your pistol.  I'm not a weapons expert, but it doesn't make sense to me that you would be able to shoot from tower to tower and kill someone without using a scope.

[eamonn]

I don't remember experiencing lag on any particular maps. I agree with the Cradle range thing, though.

My FPS rarely hits 30. :/

[double0killa]

well maybe the lag thing is just me. is there anything you can switch on or off to limit the lag. I know my pc can handle the load. I have a intel quad core 2 cpu and a nvidia geforce 8500 series. all my other games run great. for the most part this game runs great. except that dam cradle and archive.

[VC]

Turn on cheats, use +showbudget, and find out what is killing your framerate.

[double0killa]

yo vaishino, how do you turn on cheats. through the console. and after i do the +showbudget what should i look for.

[VC]

sv_cheats 1
+showbudget
(-showbudget to turn it off)

You will get a bar chart covering about half of your screen.  Find places in the maps where your FPS is the worst and note which bars on the graph are largest.  That tells you what is killing your performance.

[eamonn]

My FPS is crap in all the games I play. :/

[VC]

Then your computer needs to be put out to pasture.

[double0killa]

once i find out what is eating up my performance then what do i do

[VC]

Address the issue.  Which may mean turning off graphic options, overclocking, or building a new box.

[Jonathon [SSL]]

well maybe the lag thing is just me. is there anything you can switch on or off to limit the lag. I know my pc can handle the load. I have a intel quad core 2 cpu and a nvidia geforce 8500 series. all my other games run great. for the most part this game runs great. except that dam cradle and archive.

The 8500 isn't exactly a "gaming" card, as it is much less powerful than the rest of the 8000 series. However, I used to have an 8400 and these settings would always give me >40fps:

Resolution: 1024x768
Model Detail: High
Texture Detail: High
Shader Detail: Low
Water Detail: Reflect World
Shadow Detail: Medium
Color Correction: Enabled (Has very little performance impact from my tests)
Antialiasing Mode: None
Filtering Mode: Trilinear
Wait For Vertical Sync: Disabled
Motion Blur: Disabled (Has little performance impact other than a short pause when turning quickly, which easily becomes annoying)
HDR: Full (Make sure the Use Bloom Effect When Available is unchecked)

The most important parts are the shadow/shader detail, the lower resolution, and turning off antialiasing.

Had always worked for me to get great frame rates.

[eamonn]

Then your computer needs to be put out to pasture.

I know, but I don't have any money.

[VC]

Why don't you get a job, Al?

[killermonkey]

Double0killa please do not refer to your FPS problems as lag. Lag has to do with network performance, such as ping and updates. You should refer to your problems as LOW FRAMERATE. The 8500 is nowhere near as powerful as any of the other 8000's, in fact a 7800 is more powerful except it lacks DirectX 10 support.

The reason archives lags you is because there are some issues with the areaportals that tell the engine which parts of the map to draw depending on where you are in the map. It draws A LOT more than it should.

Cradle is obviously always drawn because you can see everything no matter where you are. It just gets worse with more players because that adds more things for your computer to draw.

As for the accuracy of the weapons, try killing me with an automatic or pistol on DEATHMATCH from afar and you will clearly see the reason for the sniper rifle. Do not base your judgement of weapon stats on LTK.