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Question for the devs
killermonkey:
This is what I learned on:
Sam's Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days
http://www.amazon.com/Sams-Teach-Yourself-Days-5th/dp/0672327112/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238560484&sr=1-1
The 24 hour books suck ass and leave a lot of holes that you will have to fill eventually. Forget about the "Visual C++" fill in the word "Visual" with Microsoft... it's not about standards kids!
The Beatles pwn j00!:
--- Quote from: steven_m64 on April 01, 2009, 04:20:23 am ---only retards find "C++ how to program" hard to learn from as i said its the best book i have ever seen for programming.
those who cant learn from that book need to grow a damn brain.
--- End quote ---
Well, it's just stuff like this:
"Everyone -- beginner and migrating expert -- should avoid C++ How to Program (6th Edition). Notwithstanding the pretty presentation, this book teaches abysmal programming practices, such as blatant and amateurish violations of the Liskov Substitutability Principle."
This is part of a long and persuasive review (not a review on this book in particular. This review is for another book, but mentions many of the most used books). Ugh. I hate reading through reviews. Half of the people say one thing, and the other half say the exact opposite, with equal persuasiveness. But in the end I guess it really depends on the individual reading it.
Sigh. I suppose I need to spend hundreds of dollars to find out for myself.
I'll get "C++ How to Program". But if it doesn't teach me well, then I'm holding YOU responsible. Hehe, just kidding.
I'll be going through this book first anyway:
http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Principles-Practice-Using-C/dp/0321543726/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238469722&sr=1-1
...which should take many weeks or months to fully digest and understand it as it was meant to be. The approach of this particular book sounds very interesting. I hope it to give me better footing for when I move on to more rigid and technical books. I'm assuming "C++ How to Program" is one of the more rigid, monotonous, robot-like texts.
steven_m64:
you dont need the latest edition of the book anything at or later then 4th edition of c++ how to program will be fine and dont be afraid to get a used copy for cheap hell my copy cost me 25$ and was in black and white only:
;p
ill say it again only tards don't like that book.
C++ how to program is a gold standard i think of programming books, it is the standard book for teaching c++ in multiple schools.
also don't just look at the reviews of the 6th edition (still quite new)look at the sheer number of 4-5 star reviews for each edition leading up to it.
edit:
did a quick check the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th editions of the book come to a total of 232 5 star ratings.
The Beatles pwn j00!:
I suppose you're right.
Contrary to how I was acting before, price isn't too much of a concern for me (within reason).
I'd much rather pay $80 for a brand new, up to date copy with beautiful colors, pristine semi-gloss pages, and that intoxicating new book smell. Those things aren't going to help me learn C++, but damn I enjoy them. There's nothing quite like a brand new textbook. *pleasure shudder* :)
So, I'll be starting pretty soon here. Once I get mah books, I'll be making an effort to study them for AT LEAST 2 hours a day everyday (preferably more). I AM quite serious about this. I just need to take it slow. I need to try not to get ahead of myself and fall into hopeless frustration. One step at a time. I can do this shit!
If I come across any trouble I'll be sure to bother the hell out of you guys with my extremely ignorant questions. :)
eamonn:
The looming presence of a recession means I'll likely be getting a used 5th edition.
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