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Video Game Violence
Jonathan [Spider]:
the main problem is that a lot of the studys on video game violence are complete bullshit.
study's do things like put kids in a room let them play video games for a while. some pick violent games some don't. then they study the kids, and the ones who are more aggressive played the violent video games. the study's then end up with a huge amount of flaws like hey maybe kids who are more aggressive like violent video games. or what constitutes a violent game? does aggressive behavior translate to actual violence?
the argument of video games leading to violent behavior is nearly impossible to test because the amount of influences in a persons environment are to many to be able to narrow down the specific cause to one form of entertainment in someones life.
comic books were the last generations scape goat you should start your research there. and maybe go into other generations evil sex and violence inducing entertainments like Elvis, or jazz music.
fallow that to things like the Columbine shootings Jack Thompson (Mr. im such a shit bag lawyer i got disbarred WOot) then finish your argument by reading Grand Theft Childhood. after that you should be a pretty dam solid expert on the subject.
make sure in your paper not to talk out of your ass on what your opinions are, look at historical references and actual scientific study, that arent making the conclusion that correlation is causality.
Loafie, Hero of Dreams:
idiot parents confuse correlation with causation, then scapegoat others to not confront their own poor parenting skills
Not related to videogame violence, but one of my favorite south park videos ever
In no way am i advocating domestic abuse, but for fucks sake you have to teach a kid some discipline
Rodney 1.666:
North America has far too much protection for children. The protection is more unhealthy than just letting them discover things on their own. Saying "you can't watch/listen/do this" only makes them more curious.
Not just for violence in video games, but everything else that is deemed "inappropriate".
As an example, over in Europe, things seem very slack in that regard. Topless beaches, pubic urinals ('cause they're going to piss themselves anyway), etc.
Why? Because no one cares. Why? 'Cause it's not a big deal.
Violent video games do not cause aggressiveness in people, unless they're either?playing Mortal Kombat in the school yard, mentally unstable, or can't tell the difference. (Which might fall into 'mentally unstable'.)
"You know the best way to protect your child? Leave them the fuck alone!" ~George Carlin
Then there's all the controversy from parents and the media about kids playing games like GTA. Should you allow your kids to play GTA in the first place? NO. End the of the fucking argument. There is nothing to discuss.
The problem there lies in the shitty parenting, which allows the kid to play it in the first place. Then other parents start foaming at the mouth, saying the developers are bad people. Nice.
The bullshit gets so rampant in fact that people start making up completely false things about certain games; either pulled out of their ass or just assumed because they didn't do their research.
All this stupidity and all these people making all this noise, at the end of the day, is a waste of time, and is damaging the child's mind more than just letting them discover things for themselves.
Of course, there are times when you do have to step in. You know, it would be nice if there were some sort of... rating system for games. You know, to keep minors away from certain games? They do that with movies...
I heard of this ingeneous idea from ScrewAttack.com. They ought to implement this system.
[/sarcasm]
Want more? Well, just for a bullshit bonus, I found this hilarious site.
http://www.whattheyplay.com/
"You'll know more than your kids!"
GTA appropriate for your children? Click to learn more. [Not exact quote]
Gotta love how they took some of their site's design from YouTube.
Edited for missing word.
Bissrok:
I think real life social experiences have a much more profound influence over people's behavior than simple entertainment, like violent books, film, or videogames. I don't know any guy my age that hasn't grown up with all three, and none of them are terribly violent by nature.
I say a girlfriend cheating on you is infinitely more likely to incite violent than listening to Ozzy or mowin' down some imps in Doom. In fact, I think either of those things would be a great help in reducing any sort of anger and aggression. How many of us have had a bad day, and we've come home and run down some hookers? Virtual violence is great for stress relief.
kraid:
If you think you got it bad with ppl trying to blame videogames for almost everything, come over here to germany.
We allready got a very harsh censorship on violence in games and movies and there are ppl who are still trying to get even harder restrictions especally on Games.
For some examples read my posts here:
http://forums.goldeneyesource.com/index.php/topic,2015.msg26238.html#msg26238
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