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Release date of GE:s Beta 3

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Ryan [Saiz]:

--- Quote from: bklax23 on October 17, 2008, 11:06:55 pm ---ummm, are you serious? PLEASE DONT tell me you guys are going to take yearS with a "s"....frankly, if it isn't done within a year from now...that will kind of make me wonder since it looks like from the gameplay that the foundation is set and all you have to do is throw in achievements and weapons and fix bugs...I don't think that should take 2 years..or even a year. Please, I really hope it wont take that long. That "s" you put on "years" REALLY FREAKISHLY scares me.

Also, by saying a COMPLETE beta..does that mean you are adding EVERY WEAPON IN THE WHOLE GAME before releasing..or do you just mean all the weapons you guys have created as of right now? If that is the case, will the grenade launcher and rocket launcher make it in THIS beta?

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This project is made by us on our freetime, we don't work in a studio so we don't work on it for 8+ hours a day so get off our backs, we also have lives outside of this mod.

Rodney 1.666:
I also recall him saying that it won't be years with an "s".

Jonathan [Spider]:

--- Quote from: bklax23 ---ummm, are you serious? PLEASE DONT tell me you guys are going to take yearS with a "s"....frankly, if it isn't done within a year from now...that will kind of make me wonder since it looks like from the gameplay that the foundation is set and all you have to do is throw in achievements and weapons and fix bugs...I don't think that should take 2 years..or even a year. Please, I really hope it wont take that long. That "s" you put on "years" REALLY FREAKISHLY scares me.

Also, by saying a COMPLETE beta..does that mean you are adding EVERY WEAPON IN THE WHOLE GAME before releasing..or do you just mean all the weapons you guys have created as of right now? If that is the case, will the grenade launcher and rocket launcher make it in THIS beta?

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My exact quote was "it wont be years i know that much" thought i was clear on that lol.

For your estimates for how long something should take, to be honest even i don't even know, and I've been with this project for 3 years. we never know when we will hit a lul in development, or when we will hit a peak its unpredictable when your working with people who are making things in their spare time and on a volunteer basis. To be able to give out solid dates on exactly how long things will take is foolish and ignorant on anyone's part including me.  we have no clue if monkey will get slammed with work, school, or hell get in a car wreak, then our main programmer would be out, and the project would be literally dead in the water.

Yes a complete beta does mean EVERY WEAPON otherwise that's not complete. and yes that does mean all the weapons we have created... we have finished every single gun in terms of modeling and texturing. i want the grenade launcher and rockets in before the game comes out, but the team could over vote me on that if the rest of the game is golden and we have to have it in a patch. but i really really would push for it, unless it was something like "if we put it in, we have to delay release for 2 months for 2 guns" that wouldn't be cool, but other than that yea i want them in.

with talking with various teammates and their expectations for when things can get done, we have a good idea of when we expect things to be ready to get into your guys hands, but tbh the team never knows 100% for sure. which is why we have to be a bit cryptic about dates. we don't want to disappoint you, and you don't want to be disappointed.

Doc.NO:

--- Quote from: Jonathan [Spider] on October 18, 2008, 09:02:48 am ---with talking with various teammates and their expectations for when things can get done, we have a good idea of when we expect things to be ready to get into your guys hands, but tbh the team never knows 100% for sure. which is why we have to be a bit cryptic about dates. we don't want to disappoint you, and you don't want to be disappointed.
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With the Beta 1.0 rush, I understand why you guys don't want to set up a release date again. This is a good decision. Rather, why not release some percentages on what's done til that famous beta 3? It gives your community an approximate idea of where you guys stand in term of dev, and might calm down people like bklax23 ;). This is the way it was done back in 2005, and worked well.




--- Quote from: Jonathan [Spider] on October 13, 2008, 04:41:10 am ---sorry about the whole lack of updates thing, we do kinda suck at getting those out to you guys. the main reason we are slow with updates, is that they take a lot longer to assemble and a bit of work to do them. so we would rather just spend that time and effort actually making the game cause well that's a lot more fun for us haha.
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That's why most of the mod out there always have one or two Public Relation dude. GES is probably the only non failing source mod whitout a PR dev...

Oh, and please: work on that nice photoshop art so called website. Should be more up-to-date :/

Wake[of]theBunT:
Xanatos is the PR dev, dont ask me why he doesnt do his job anymore, same deal as any other dev i suspect ; better things to do for his time.

At this stage of the mod and this coming beta, it would be over the top to do such things as graphs and percentages. That should be a sign at how far off it may be.

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