Topic: Almost 1 year since Beta 1 (Read 16277 times)

Rupan · « **on:** December 02, 2007, 12:10:42 pm »

This Christmas will roughly (what was it like 3 or 4 days of havoc when it didnt happen) mark the 1 year anniversary of Beta 1. Are you guys planning on a big update the same as last year? Just curious sorry if this was already announced I havent been around the forums I guess since it moved into Beta 1. Either way, great year for you guys heres hoping the next will be just as prosperous if not more so.

Konrad Beerbaum · « **Reply #1 on:** December 02, 2007, 06:21:29 pm »

Sorry, we aren't ready to announce anything yet.

Jeron [SharpSh00tah] · « **Reply #2 on:** December 02, 2007, 07:06:07 pm »

^^ he beat me to it

EduCatOR · « **Reply #3 on:** December 02, 2007, 09:47:21 pm »

I just recently found this community, so I don't know all the details of what really went down. To be honest, I've never really met the guy, but maybe something should be released in memory of Nickster. Seems like, if for any reason, something should be released for him.

I don't know, just my two cents...

CCsaint10 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 03, 2007, 02:14:50 am »

hahha! That was probably the funniest thing I have read all day. hehe

Dan

Semedi · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2007, 02:22:13 am »

Quote from: EduCatOR on December 02, 2007, 09:47:21 pm

I just recently found this community, so I don't know all the details of what really went down. To be honest, I've never really met the guy, but maybe something should be released in memory of Nickster. Seems like, if for any reason, something should be released for him.

I don't know, just my two cents...

Beta 1's release was after Nick's death. What happened is terrible but work still continues.

Rupan · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2007, 04:37:33 pm »

actually, all they have really shown is models and artwork. And while it helps to recreate the original Im the kind of person that cares more about engine updates and tweaks to the combat. Thats the main reason I dont check to often on the forums, I typically just go, "Looks great now how are some of those weird glitches coming along?". Also, typically when someone says:

"We aren't announcing anything yet"

it means they have hopes for something but dont want to announce it till they are sure. Albeit, thats what it means in the normal Commercial/PR world. And given that last year there was a ton of fall out from them missing the date by 4 days and I think I remember them saying something along the lines of "Never again will we have a release date" it wouldnt be surprising if they took this stance.

Loafie, Hero of Dreams · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2007, 03:27:33 am »

We're not going to argue about stuff the public is unable see

it just ends up a hollow and uninformed debate. Anybody who wants to think it's dead can think what they want, it really has no effect on production, and you can just pick it up when we release. Being a jerk, however, is unjustified and unnecessary.

Slob · « **Reply #8 on:** December 06, 2007, 11:32:58 am »

So a declining community does not affect production at all?
Interesting.

Konrad Beerbaum · « **Reply #9 on:** December 06, 2007, 08:04:11 pm »

Quote from: Slob on December 06, 2007, 11:32:58 am

So a declining community does not affect production at all?
Interesting.

Not actual production, however it does result it a decline in qualified applicants.

Slob · « **Reply #10 on:** December 07, 2007, 05:34:40 pm »

Well it's good if you manage to keep the spirit up!

Rupan · « **Reply #11 on:** December 11, 2007, 02:52:15 am »

Quote from: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on December 05, 2007, 03:27:33 am

Being a jerk, however, is unjustified and unnecessary.

Im sorry are you saying Im being a Jerk? Im not sure how what I said could be interpreted as that. If anything I am defending your stance on not putting out a date after what happened last year and the rushed feel of it.

Loafie, Hero of Dreams · « **Reply #12 on:** December 11, 2007, 03:29:39 am »

No there were some posts that were deleted for being jerks, and now our posts are poorly lined up, haha

jos · « **Reply #13 on:** December 11, 2007, 05:00:10 am »

Lets see, you release nothing for a year, havent posted an update in months, wont give any indication of when anything will be released and stifle any questions about whats going on because youre "not going to discuss it..."

Basically youre saying to the community "we dont care about you" and when someone calls you on it you delete their posts and call them jerks.

I have a slightly different view of who the self absorbed jerks are here. This mod may not be dead yet but you sure seem to want it to be or you just dont realize you need actual people for it to be successful. Right now youre driving them off almost as if you like it.

Ryan [Saiz] · « **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2007, 05:03:16 am »

No he was originally referring it to shaken not stirred's post not yours. His post has been deleted because it was completely irrelevant and yes he was being a jerk. Loaf was not directing anything towards you or anyother fan or community member. Shaken has the reputation to not be very helpful sometimes.

InvertedShadow · « **Reply #15 on:** December 11, 2007, 06:30:33 am »

Quote from: jos on December 11, 2007, 05:00:10 am

Lets see, you release nothing for a year, havent posted an update in months, wont give any indication of when anything will be released and stifle any questions about whats going on because youre "not going to discuss it..."

Basically youre saying to the community "we dont care about you" and when someone calls you on it you delete their posts and call them jerks.

I have a slightly different view of who the self absorbed jerks are here. This mod may not be dead yet but you sure seem to want it to be or you just dont realize you need actual people for it to be successful. Right now youre driving them off almost as if you like it.

You act like we owe this to you. We're making a free game in our spare time that we can be enjoying life with. This is something we do for fun, it's done whenever we get around to it. Have patience.

Loafie, Hero of Dreams · « **Reply #16 on:** December 11, 2007, 06:39:17 am »

Fer fucks sake. This is why I don't like people deleting posts. My post was directed at shaken. I told you what was going on in the last update I wrote and it hasn't changed. We're still there and nothing has changed from that course we're taking so I don't know what you expect me to tell you. Here it is again if you didn't see it.

Quote from: Loafie, Hero of Dreams on November 08, 2007, 03:38:01 am

We're not dead. As some of you may have read in the latest update, virtually all of the weapons are done art-side, so there isn't much to show you other than some random props here and there that would probably be more interesting in the context of their individual maps. Looking back, weekly updates may not have been the best way to release media, since we burned through our supply in a couple months, but at least now everybody knows where we are at with the art.
Lately there has been a lot of managerial shuffling, with big changes like lodle and wake leaving, mario and scott coming back, and a slew of new talent applying. The big hurdle we're at right now is the Episode 2 SDK. We decided we want to port the game over to the new version of the engine to take advantage of its new goodies, however that requires us waiting until the SDK is released leaving us at a bit of an impasse. In the meantime, Mario has been thrashing through the current code and stabilizing the hell out of it, which will make the task of porting over working bits of code from the current build to the new SDK much more efficient and allow us the iterate changes properly and have stricter bug control. You also may not have heard, but Multi-fire was indeed vanquished, taking that load off our collective back. This down time will also allow us to work on and fine tune things like dual-wielding, maps, rolling explosions and various game modes while we wait for the new SDK to roll around.
There has been some discussion about doing a release before the new SDK is released/fully ported, and while we would certainly love to see the bump in activity surrounding a new release, for the moment we feel that concentrating on wrapping up something releasable from the current content would detract from our current goal of getting everything packaged up nice and clean for the EP2 SDK port. The last thing we want to see would be another release like we had with beta one, it seems like it would take a good chunk out of our morale. Feelings might change in the future if something goes awry with the new SDK, but for now, that's our goal.

So with that said, we'll get the visual goods to you when we can, but for the moment the majority of the content we're working on is either WIP and pretty unshowable, or codeside. We hope to have a new website up and kicking ass in the near future (I know, how many times have you heard that, right?), and from the looks of it it's going to knock your socks off. If anyone knows any quality character modelers or programmers, send 'em our way, as it seems like that is the area with the most potential to be fleshed out (literally).

I can repost the same update if it makes you feel better, but there is nothing to be gained from it. When we have something to announce or release, we'll announce or release it. I'm sorry if that doesn't work for you and you want us to conjure up updates but that's how it's going to be. This is a busy time for a lot of us in our personal lives, and it's easy to forget that none of us are paid for what we're doing and we try to work when we're able to. I'm sorry if you feel like we don't care about you but we're doing the best we can and only you can decide how you feel.

Semedi · « **Reply #17 on:** December 11, 2007, 06:49:57 am »

Quote from: jos on December 11, 2007, 05:00:10 am

you just dont realize you need actual people for it to be successful

I'll simply ignore the rest of your trash post, but allow me to say this... You clearly don't understand why we're making this mod in the first place.

Jonathan [Spider] · « **Reply #18 on:** December 12, 2007, 08:25:46 am »

Quote from: jos on December 11, 2007, 05:00:10 am

Lets see, you release nothing for a year, havent posted an update in months, wont give any indication of when anything will be released and stifle any questions about whats going on because youre "not going to discuss it..."

Basically youre saying to the community "we dont care about you" and when someone calls you on it you delete their posts and call them jerks.

I have a slightly different view of who the self absorbed jerks are here. This mod may not be dead yet but you sure seem to want it to be or you just dont realize you need actual people for it to be successful. Right now youre driving them off almost as if you like it.

the thing is, a lot of the people on the team, i would say the vast majority, aren't interested in making the worlds biggest mod. partially because we aren't motivated by building a product to sell. we just want to make GE64 come back to life with a new engine to relive our nostalgic memory's with some friends. if we get a bunch of people to come along with us, thats fantastic for them and us to be able to share that experience together. we don't NEED to have a ton of people fallowing the mod, its not what drives us forward, the game it self is what does that for us. though we do enjoy the community that has developed around the project we really love you guys for being so crazy about the stuff we make

we really do love our fans though, and the support that they give us, and we hope that when we are finished that they will be able to have fun right along side us. sorry about the confusion with the deletion of posts but yea we generally wouldn't call our fans jerks unless they were REALLY bad haha

EduCatOR · « **Reply #19 on:** December 13, 2007, 06:05:19 pm »

Just so the dev team knows....we are all already having fun playing this. At least I am...it just sucks that GE:S seems to be like crack cocaine to everyone. One little taste and everyone wants more + the good stuff.

Hi, I'm EduCatOR, and I'm a GE:S crackhead.

Jeron [SharpSh00tah] · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2007, 06:19:37 pm »

Hi im SharpSh00tah, and Im a crackhead on GE:S

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